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Re: [Fot] Cost of diesel [was Oil - Since Triumphs Drip...]

To: "'Joe Curry'" <spitlist@cox.net>, "'Friends of Triumph'"
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cost of diesel [was Oil - Since Triumphs Drip...]
From: "Jack Brooks" <JackBrooks@alumni.duke.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:53:57 -0700
Joe,

I picked up an 06 Malibu LS from my company (employee car) with 60K on it.
I did my research first, as I figured the Malibu would be an appliance.
It's not.  It's based on GM's Epsilon chassis (Saab 9-3, Opel Vectra Pontiac
Future? Grand AM & Saturn LS??, etc.)  The seats are great, the suspension
configuration common across platforms (shocks/springs differ) etc, and my
mixed driving keeps the mileage between 29 and 32. Oh, four wheel disk
brakes, rear IRS, side air bags, etc.  

Do some research on GM's Epsilon platform cars.  It's no sports car, but I'm
impressed with the value.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces+jibjib=att.net@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces+jibjib=att.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:28 AM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: Shane Ingate; Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cost of diesel [was Oil - Since Triumphs Drip...]

A couple of weeks ago, I was notified that my job is being moved off shore
and I will be effectively unemployed as of August 15.  In anticipation of
getting another job, I will likely have to start commuting again.  I have
been workingfrom home for the past 9 years so I felt like I didn't have to
worry about thecost of commuting and bought an Avalanche to tow my double
deck Spit hauler.  It gets about 18 mpg on the highway (not towing) and
about 12 when towing the loaded trailer.  So If I will be commuting, I have
to find another vehicle that gets considerably better mileage.  I am A GM
MasterCard holder that earns a percentage of allcharges toward purchase of
any GM vehicle.  So If I have to get an ugly econo-box, I guess it would
have to be a GM product.

Anybody have a suggestion of a good choice?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bill Babcock
  To: Joe Curry
  Cc: Shane Ingate ; Friends of Triumph
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Cost of diesel [was Oil - Since Triumphs Drip...]


  The ballpark calculation of Diesel vs. Gas for towing generally goes
something like this: I get 14 MPG towing a heavy race car trailer with my
F350 and 9 MPG or less with my Yukon Denali. Diesel has to be nearly twice
as expensive to deliver the same cost per mile. Around town with no tow my
F350 gets 16 MPG, so I don't use it unless I need to carry something. My 360
spider gets 22MPG on average and delivers about 400 TPG (thrills per
gallon). My FZ1 Yamaha gets a little over 50MPG and my FJR1200 gets a little
over 39. I'm riding the FZ a lot these days. My Honda CA95 (1962 150 Dream)
gets over 75 MPG but I look like a complete dork driving it.


  If you really want to avoid using gas, start pumping pedals or get an
electric bicycle. Or a Honda step through. Those little  and very light four
strokes from the sixties get over 100MPG. If you have any environmental
conscience to speak of it's tough to justify a two stroke scooter--they emit
more emission products than a small fleet of SUV's
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