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To: "Steven Preiss" <spreiss@verizon.net>,
Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question
From: "RACER BUD" <budscars@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:12:40 -0700
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One of my favorite cars for Style was the (I think 53 stude..Golden =
Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were literaly =
'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoting a =
movie which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the =
cars that added to the racing bug
Racer Bud
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steven Preiss=20
  To: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net=20
  Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question


  One of my neighborhood friends growing up was a Studebaker nut, a =
passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt inherited from his dad. =
They would work into the night in the carport on one or another of their =
cars, droplights providing a weary glow. The cars, which as I recall =
ranged from a 1950 convertible, painted red with a white top, to a sleek =
Silver Hawk with a 289 and glass packs, always seemed exotic in an =
atypical American sort of way. A buddy of theirs had what they referred =
to as 'the Studebaker farm', which was actually a small dairy farm, the =
main pasture of which was lined with over 100 Studebakers that had been =
hauled in from all over the countryside and carefully placed side by =
side around the perimeter, providing an endless supply of parts and =
projects. Martin was a somewhat laconic fellow who carpeted his cars =
with an array of carpet "chucks" gleaned from a local flooring company. =
He also was the first in our group of carpoolers to drive his own car to =
school. Some wild rides down narrow curving residential streets are =
emblazoned in my memory. One striking characteristic of the cars was the =
overdrives, activated by a little toggle switch always placed =
inconspicuously under the dash. Another was their propensity for burning =
oil, which meant that the dipstick became a familiar friend. Which leads =
me to the point. Whether a result of unintentional poor' design or =
intentional daily abuse, cans of STP were always kept in the trunks of =
the cars, along with quarts of inexpensive motor oil, giving true =
meaning to the term, "Studebaker Tested Products"!
  STeve P. ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: EDWARD BARNARD=20
    To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com ; dkettler@tcbi.com=20
    Cc: FOT=20
    Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:44 AM
    Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question


          Lister's: Thank you to all that answered my question about =
STP. A call to their H.Q. public relations office this morning has =
revealed what we should assume is the truth. The STP does stand for =
Scientifically Treated Petroleum. The Wiki reference to it standing for =
Studebaker Tested Products is in fact true. The company did tie their =
name to the product for a short time until Andy G. took over. But, the =
Wiki reference to King Richard no longer being a spokeperson for the =
company is false. According to the P.R. department, they have the =
longest commercial endorse in history.=20
          Thanks again to the list!
           -Ed-

          --- On Tue, 9/30/08, David Kettler <dkettler@tcbi.com> wrote:

            From: David Kettler <dkettler@tcbi.com>
            Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question
            To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com
            Cc: "FOT" <fot@autox.team.net>, edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
            Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM


I recall when I was a kid collecting STP stickers at gas stations.
I always understood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.

Dave Kettler

At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53@yahoo.com>=20
wrote:

>Ed:
>=20
>From STP's web page: STP =3D Scientifically Treated Petroleum--- On=20
Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net> wrote:
>From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>Subject: [Fot] Non-
LBC group questionTo: "FOT" <fot@autox.team.net>Date: Tuesday,
September=20
30, 2008, 11:06 AM
>
>Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters
(Kurtis',
Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.
In 1963 Studebaker purchased from three gentlemen a little known=20
company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product=20
they were selling from the trunks of their cars. Studebaker gave=20
Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test driver for Studebaker =

the position of CEO of the newly acquired company which he then renamed=20
STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of=20
STP? I am getting mixed answers from The Racing History Group. Most=20
say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are saying=20
it stands for Studebaker Test Products. Do any of the FOTers know=20
the "true" side of the story?=20
>BTW, later I will relate this past Saturday spent with three great=20
guys, Johnny Rutherford, Lloyd Ruby,  and Jim McElreath, at a car=20
show we had.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of my favorite cars for Style was =
the (I think=20
53 stude..Golden Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were =
literaly=20
'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoting a =
movie=20
which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the cars that =
added=20
to the racing bug</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Racer Bud</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dspreiss@verizon.net =
href=3D"mailto:spreiss@verizon.net";>Steven=20
  Preiss</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dedwardbarnard@prodigy.net=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";>edwardbarnard@prodigy.net</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 01, =
2008 2:04=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Non-LBC =
group=20
  question</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of my neighborhood friends =
growing up was a=20
  Studebaker nut, a passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt =
inherited from=20
  his dad. They would work into the night in the carport on one or =
another of=20
  their cars, droplights providing a weary glow. The cars,&nbsp;which as =
I=20
  recall ranged from a 1950 convertible, painted red with a white top, =
to a=20
  sleek Silver Hawk with a 289 and glass packs, always seemed exotic in =
an=20
  atypical American sort of way.&nbsp;A&nbsp;buddy of theirs had what =
they=20
  referred to as 'the&nbsp;Studebaker farm', which was actually a small =
dairy=20
  farm<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>, the main pasture of =
which was lined=20
  with over 100 Studebakers that had been hauled in from all over the=20
  countryside and carefully placed side by side around the perimeter,=20
  providing&nbsp;an endless supply of parts and projects. Martin was a =
somewhat=20
  laconic fellow who carpeted his cars with an array of carpet "chucks" =
gleaned=20
  from a local flooring company. He also was the first in our group of=20
  carpoolers to drive his own car to school. Some wild rides down narrow =
curving=20
  residential streets are emblazoned in my memory. One striking =
characteristic=20
  of the cars was the overdrives, activated by a little toggle switch=20
  always&nbsp;placed inconspicuously under the dash. Another was their=20
  propensity for burning oil, which meant that the dipstick became a =
familiar=20
  friend. Which leads me to the point. Whether&nbsp;a result&nbsp;of=20
  unintentional poor' design or intentional daily abuse, cans of STP =
were always=20
  kept in the trunks of the cars,&nbsp;along with quarts of inexpensive =
motor=20
  oil, giving true meaning to the term, "Studebaker Tested=20
  Products"!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>STeve P.&nbsp;----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dedwardbarnard@prodigy.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";>EDWARD BARNARD</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dehusmann53@yahoo.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:ehusmann53@yahoo.com";>ehusmann53@yahoo.com</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Ddkettler@tcbi.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com";>dkettler@tcbi.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 02, =
2008 3:44=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Non-LBC =
group=20
    question</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
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      <TR>
        <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
          <DIV>Lister's: Thank you to all that answered my question =
about STP. A=20
          call to their H.Q. public relations office this morning has =
revealed=20
          what we should assume is the truth. The STP does stand for=20
          Scientifically Treated Petroleum. The Wiki reference to it =
standing=20
          for Studebaker Tested Products is in fact true. The company =
did tie=20
          their name to the product for a short time until Andy G. took =
over.=20
          But, the Wiki reference to King Richard no longer being a =
spokeperson=20
          for the company is false. According to the P.R. department, =
they have=20
          the longest commercial endorse in history. </DIV>
          <DIV>Thanks again to the list!</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;-Ed-<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/30/08, David=20
          <SPAN>Kettler</SPAN> <I>&lt;dkettler@tcbi.com&gt;</I></B>=20
          wrote:<BR></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE=20
          style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From:=20
            David Kettler &lt;dkettler@tcbi.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: =
[Fot]=20
            Non-LBC group question<BR>To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com<BR>Cc: =
"FOT"=20
            &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;, =
edwardbarnard@prodigy.net<BR>Date:=20
            Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I recall =
when I was a kid collecting STP stickers at gas stations.
I always understood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.

Dave Kettler

At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, Ernest Husmann =
&lt;ehusmann53@yahoo.com&gt;=20
wrote:

&gt;Ed:
&gt;&nbsp;
&gt;From STP's web page: STP =3D Scientifically Treated Petroleum--- On=20
Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD &lt;edwardbarnard@prodigy.net&gt; wrote:
&gt;From: EDWARD BARNARD &lt;edwardbarnard@prodigy.net&gt;Subject: [Fot] =
Non-
LBC group questionTo: "FOT" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;Date: Tuesday,
September=20
30, 2008, 11:06 AM
&gt;
&gt;Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters
(Kurtis',
Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.
In 1963 Studebaker purchased from three gentlemen a little known=20
company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product=20
they were selling from the trunks of their cars. Studebaker gave=20
Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test&nbsp;driver for =
Studebaker=20
the position of CEO of the newly acquired company which he =
then&nbsp;renamed=20
STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of=20
STP? I am getting mixed answers from&nbsp;The Racing History Group. Most =

say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are saying=20
it stands for Studebaker Test Products. Do any of the FOTers know=20
the "true" side of the story?=20
&gt;BTW, later I will relate&nbsp;this past Saturday spent with three =
great=20
guys, Johnny Rutherford, Lloyd Ruby,&nbsp; and Jim McElreath, at a car=20
show we had.=20
&gt;Thanks - Ed -&nbsp;_______________________________________________
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