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Re: [Fot] Hans Device

To: "'John Hasty'" <jhhasty@gdhs.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device
From: "Van Mulders Marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:55:58 +0200
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I've always had a fire system fitted in my 10 years of racing : in all that
time, it happened only once, at Donington this year, that someone of the
marchals did check if the retaining pin was removed at the start of a race
(it was). Most of the racers don't care about it!
Marcel Van Mulders.

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Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens
John Hasty
Verzonden: maandag 14 oktober 2013 22:44
Aan: BillDentin@aol.com
CC: fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device

Well said Bill.  In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have a
fire system.  Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit just
doesn't cut it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> kknight@klaenv.com writes:
>
>
>> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or 
>> similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 
>> 2013 issue (pg.
>> 32).  Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your 
>> favor as much as possible.  Enough said.
>>
>
> Amici...
>
> I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against 
> the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing.  Why not increase 
> the odds against serious injury or death.  Why not take every precaution
you can?
Why
> not indeed?  It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith 
> wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to 
> that conclusion.
>
> But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding
injury.
> From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in 
> what happened at Blackhawk last June.  I was not there, but I 
> understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another 
> race car.  I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head 
> and neck restraint, I am
just
> not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk.
But
> I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own 
> safety equipment habits.
>
> Racing is dangerous.  Fangio said that he considered he was taking his 
> life in his hand every time he took to the track.  But that was NOT 
> his greatest fear.  He feared causing an incident where another would 
> be injured or killed.  I kind of share that feeling.  Sure I don't 
> want to be injured
myself,
> but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved 
> in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured.  I stopped 
> deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I 
> worried about
shooting
> someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin).
>
> I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as 
> the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll 
> cages,
fire
> extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage 
> attitude'.  Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in 
> our
sport's race
> grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing.
>
> Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude.
>
> Bill Dentinger
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