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To: Bill Dentinger <BillDentin@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:16:22 +0000 (UTC)
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I have a great memory of Janet Guthrie.=C2=A0 One of the first races I ever=
 attended was the "Glen 500" at Watkins Glen.=C2=A0 It was The Glen's attem=
pt at something like the Trans Am, before the Trans Am existed.=C2=A0 They =
lumped all AP, BP, CP and DP cars together in one race, called the Glen 500=
.=C2=A0 It was held in conjunction with an SCCA National race weekend.=C2=
=A0 Bob Tullius was there in a TR-4, and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag XK=
-140.
I worked at the local radio station in Corning during high school, so I was=
 able to get pit passes.=C2=A0 While I was in the pits, watching the action=
, Janet Guthrie pulled into the pits.=C2=A0 This was about half way through=
 the race (or more).=C2=A0 One of the crew ran over to the car, and I could=
 hear Janet say, "we don't have any oil pressure", to which the crew man re=
sponded, "the oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all day, get back out there!=
"
I thought this was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.=C2=A0 She was a real=
 pioneer in our sport.=C2=A0 I still have the race program from that race i=
n 1964, and in addition to Janet Guthrie, there were some big names in that=
 race.=C2=A0 Bob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, Don Yenko and Dick Th=
ompson in a Corvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and Hal Keck in a Cobra.=
=C2=A0 Bob Tullius did well in the TR-4.=C2=A0 About 2/3 of the way through=
 the race, he was running in the top 3 or 4 with the Corvettes and Cobras, =
when his engine gave out.=C2=A0 They had replaced the engine the night befo=
re the race, so he was running a brand new engine in the race, with no brea=
k in time.=C2=A0 I'm going from memory here, and this was over 50 years ago=
, but I think I am generally correct on this.=C2=A0 Obviously, it had a big=
 impact on me.
By the way, one more note.=C2=A0 FOT's own Dick Stockton was in a race earl=
ier in the day for C, D, E and F Modified, called the "Glen Trophy".=C2=A0 =
Dick drove a Ferrari in F Modified.=C2=A0 Interesting what you can find in =
these old race programs.

Jack
      From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
 To: michael kowalski <sm1ski@dslextreme.com>=20
Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event
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I'll be damned. =C2=A0That calendar hangs on the wall behind my desk. =C2=
=A0I flipped the new picture up this morning, but did not notice that disti=
nction. =C2=A0I'll look harder tomorrow morning.
Bill Dentinger

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 1, 2015, at 6:23 PM, michael kowalski via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:


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Has anybody noted that the picture for April in the SCCA calender is ......=
.Janet Guthrie?
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 mike kowalski,
 old FP spit
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 On 3/31/2015 7:55 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote:
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 =C2=A0     OBTW: if you follow NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another woman=
's record of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do it with enor=
mous money behind her.   The other woman? Janet Guthrie, who did it in 33 r=
aces, without nearly the resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guthrie=
 oozes charm, wit, character,=C2=A0class, and personality.    I'm not doing=
 INDY this year, but will be there, maybe helping an old friend with his ca=
rs. See you there.   Bill =C2=A0 Bill... =C2=A0 I could not agree more that=
 JANET GUTHRIE is one Class Act!=C2=A0 Had she had decent equipment back in=
 the day, she'd have been a World Beater. =C2=A0 Have you read her book?=C2=
=A0 I did and it's a good one.=C2=A0 Its name escapes me right now. =C2=A0 =
She actually attended one of our Wine & Cheese Parties at Road America one =
time, which=C2=A0was a special treat for us. =C2=A0 Bill Dentinger    =20
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3762"><span=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5109">I have a great memory of Janet Guth=
rie.&nbsp; One of the first races I ever attended was the "Glen 500" at Wat=
kins Glen.&nbsp; It was The Glen's attempt at something like the Trans Am, =
before the Trans Am existed.&nbsp; They lumped all AP, BP, CP and DP cars t=
ogether in one race, called the Glen 500.&nbsp; It was held in conjunction =
with an SCCA National race weekend.&nbsp; Bob Tullius was there in a TR-4, =
and Janet Guthrie was driving a Jag XK-140.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1427975414233_5108" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4272" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142797541=
4233_4273">I worked at the local radio station in Corning during high schoo=
l, so I was able to get pit passes.&nbsp; While I was in the pits, watching=
 the action, Janet Guthrie pulled into the pits.&nbsp; This was about half =
way through the race (or more).&nbsp; One of the crew ran over to the car, =
and I could hear Janet say, "we don't have any oil pressure", to which the =
crew man responded, "the oil pressure gauge hasn't worked all day, get back=
 out there!"</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4496" dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"></span></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5046" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
427975414233_4273">I thought this was funny, but no dis-respect to Janet.&n=
bsp; She was a real pioneer in our sport.&nbsp; I still have the race progr=
am from that race in 1964, and in addition to Janet Guthrie, there were som=
e big names in that race.&nbsp; Bob Nagel and Ed Lowther in an AC Cobra, Do=
n Yenko and Dick Thompson in a Corvette, Bob Grossman in a Corvette, and Ha=
l Keck in a Cobra.&nbsp; Bob Tullius did well in the TR-4.&nbsp; About 2/3 =
of the way through the race, he was running in the top 3 or 4 with the Corv=
ettes and Cobras, when his engine gave out.&nbsp; They had replaced the eng=
ine the night before the race, so he was running a brand new engine in the =
race, with no break in time.&nbsp; I'm going from memory here, and this was=
 over 50 years ago, but I think I am generally correct on this.&nbsp; Obvio=
usly, it had a big impact on me.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142797=
5414233_5299" dir=3D"ltr"><br><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5300" dir=3D"ltr"><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273">By the way, one more note.&nbsp; FOT=
's own Dick Stockton was in a race earlier in the day for C, D, E and F Mod=
ified, called the "Glen Trophy".&nbsp; Dick drove a Ferrari in F Modified.&=
nbsp; Interesting what you can find in these old race programs.<br></span><=
/div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5180" dir=3D"ltr"><br><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
427975414233_5181" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_4273"=
>Jack</span></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3765" style=
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ande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_=
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7975414233_3763" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5593" si=
ze=3D"1">  <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3766" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Dentinge=
r via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bol=
d;">To:</span></b> michael kowalski &lt;sm1ski@dslextreme.com&gt; <br><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "fot@autox.team.net" &lt;fo=
t@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span=
></b> Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:06 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: b=
old;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event<br> </=
font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3767" class=3D"y_msg_con=
tainer"><br><div id=3D"yiv7704041733"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233=
_3769"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3768">I'll be damned. &nbsp;Th=
at calendar hangs on the wall behind my desk. &nbsp;I flipped the new pictu=
re up this morning, but did not notice that distinction. &nbsp;I'll look ha=
rder tomorrow morning.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3770"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3771">Bill Dent=
inger</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_3772"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><=
br></div><div class=3D"yiv7704041733yqt6472484892" id=3D"yiv7704041733yqt43=
274"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427975414233_5594"><br clear=3D"none">On Apr =
1, 2015, at 6:23 PM, michael kowalski via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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    </div></blockquote></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv7704041733yqt64724=
84892" id=3D"yiv7704041733yqt54517"><div class=3D"yiv7704041733moz-cite-pre=
fix">Has anybody noted that the picture for
      April in the SCCA calender is .......Janet Guthrie?<br clear=3D"none"=
>
      <br clear=3D"none">
      mike kowalski,<br clear=3D"none">
      old FP spit<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      On 3/31/2015 7:55 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none"=
>
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        </font><div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10=
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          <div id=3D"yiv7704041733AOLMsgPart_1.2_4aeb5611-1779-4de0-b953-e3=
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              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">OBTW: if you follow
                  NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another woman's record
                  of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do
                  it with enormous money behind her.</font> </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The other woman? Janet
                  Guthrie, who did it in 33 races, without nearly the
                  resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guthrie
                  oozes charm, wit, character,&nbsp;class, and personality.=
 </font>
              </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I'm not doing INDY this
                  year, but will be there, maybe helping an old friend
                  with his cars. See you there.</font> </div>
              <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Bill</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Bill...</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">I could not agree more that <stron=
g>JANET
                    GUTHRIE</strong> is one Class Act!&nbsp; Had she had
                  decent equipment back in the day, she'd have been a
                  World Beater.</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Have you read her book?&nbsp; I di=
d
                  and it's a good one.&nbsp; Its name escapes me right now.=
</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">She actually attended one of our
                  Wine &amp; Cheese Parties at Road America one time,
                  which&nbsp;was a special treat for us.</font></div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><font color=3D"black">Bill Dentinger</font></div>
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