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Subject: Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:05:30 +0200
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When purchasing the IMSA TR8 I also thought about to buy it with the US =
trailer but I=E2=80=99ve dropped that idea.

Too wide, too heavy, different brake system, too high hitch load.

=20

US trailers are very different to Europe ones but looking more cool!

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Aaron
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juli 2015 18:53
An: Marcel Van Mulders
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)

=20

I think a lot of the differences between Europe and USA for trailering =
are within trailer design itself.   U.S. Designed trailer have a much =
higher to tongue weight where as axle position of European trailers make =
them much more akin to flat towing a car.   And if you look at the world =
strongest man competition, a single human can pull a 727 around.   Throw =
a bunch of tongue weight on it and it taxes the towing vehicle much much =
more.=20

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 26, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Marcel Van Mulders =
<van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote:

Strange how (towing) car habits are different in the USA and Europe. You =
are wondering if a 5 litre turbo V8 diesel will be strong enough, maybe =
it should  be a 6.2 or 6.7 litre. In Europe, most  towing cars have a 2 =
litre  4 cyl engine, or even as small as a 1.4 litre.The biggest =
turbodiesel  Ford Europe is offering, has just a 2 litre engine. Idem =
for Citroen, Renault and Volkswagen(with the exception of the Touareg). =
In Europe you can see a lot of 1600cc turbodiesels  towing a caravan. A =
BMW 525d has a 2 litre,  Mercedes  E200D, 220D and 250D all have a 2.1 =
litre 4cyl engine.BMW and Mercedes buyers can still get a 3 litre =
turbodiesel, but they rarely do. Fuel is expensive in Europe and car =
taxes are rising exponentially with the fuel consumption. You in the USA =
are lucky to be able to drive full size cars with full size engines. In =
Europe, the engines get smaller and smaller. Almost all VW Golfs are =
sold with a tiny 1.2 litre or 1.4 litre engine. In Europe a 1.6 litre is =
 called a big engine in a VW Golf. Maybe in the USA 1.6 litre can do in =
a V-Twin bike, but only just?

Marcel.

=20

  _____ =20

Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens marty
Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juli 2015 18:16
Aan: FOT
Onderwerp: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)

I have been checking out the new F-150's a bit. According to the specs, =
with the max-tow package they are within a few pounds of the tow =
capacity of the F-250's.  Since I only heavy tow a few times a year the =
gas savings throughout the rest of the year compared to the F-250 would =
be substantial as I put on about 250 miles per week just going to work =
and back. Is anybody on the list towing any weight with one of these new =
ones? How=E2=80=99s is it working out for you?

=20

Marty

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lang=3DEN-US =
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D'>When purchasing the IMSA TR8 I also thought about to buy it with the =
US trailer but I=E2=80=99ve dropped that idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Too wide, too heavy, different brake system, too high hitch =
load.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>US trailers are very different to Europe ones but looking more =
cool!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Aaron<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 26. Juli 2015 18:53<br><b>An:</b> =
Marcel Van Mulders<br><b>Cc:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> =
Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think =
a lot of the differences between Europe and USA for trailering are =
within trailer design itself. &nbsp; U.S. Designed trailer have a much =
higher to tongue weight where as axle position of European trailers make =
them much more akin to flat towing a car. &nbsp; And if you look at the =
world strongest man competition, a single human can pull a 727 around. =
&nbsp; Throw a bunch of tongue weight on it and it taxes the towing =
vehicle much much more.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 26, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Marcel =
Van Mulders &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be";>van.mulders.marcel@telenet.=
be</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>St=
range how (towing) car habits are different in the USA and =
Europe.&nbsp;You are&nbsp;wondering if a 5 litre turbo V8 diesel will be =
strong enough, maybe it should&nbsp; be a 6.2 or 6.7 litre. In Europe, =
most&nbsp;&nbsp;towing cars have a 2 litre&nbsp;&nbsp;4 cyl engine, or =
even as small as a&nbsp;1.4 litre.The biggest =
turbodiesel&nbsp;&nbsp;Ford Europe is offering, has just a 2 litre =
engine. Idem&nbsp;for Citroen, Renault and Volkswagen(with the exception =
of the Touareg). In Europe you can see a lot of 1600cc =
turbodiesels&nbsp; towing a caravan. A BMW 525d has a 2 litre,&nbsp; =
Mercedes&nbsp; E200D, 220D and 250D all have a 2.1 litre 4cyl engine.BMW =
and Mercedes buyers can still&nbsp;get a 3 litre turbodiesel, but they =
rarely do. Fuel is expensive in Europe and car taxes are rising =
exponentially with the fuel consumption. You in the USA are lucky to be =
able to drive full size cars with full size engines. In Europe, the =
engines get smaller and smaller. Almost all VW Golfs are sold with a =
tiny 1.2 litre or 1.4 litre engine. In Europe&nbsp;a 1.6 litre is&nbsp; =
called&nbsp;a big engine in a VW Golf. Maybe&nbsp;in the USA 1.6 =
litre&nbsp;can do in a&nbsp;V-Twin bike, but only =
just?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Ma=
rcel.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>Namens </b>marty<br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 24 juli 2015 =
18:16<br><b>Aan:</b> FOT<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Fot] Towing (New =
F-150)</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have been checking out =
the new F-150's a bit. According to the specs, with the max-tow package =
they are within a few pounds of the tow capacity of the F-250's.=C2=A0 =
Since I only heavy tow a few times a year the gas savings throughout the =
rest of the year compared to the F-250 would be substantial as I put on =
about 250 miles per week just going to work and back. Is anybody on the =
list towing any weight with one of these new ones? How=E2=80=99s is it =
working out for you?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Marty</span><o:p></o:p></p><=
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