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To: "'Jason Sukey'" <jsukey@gmail.com>, <timmmurphh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels
From: "Peter Vucinic" <pvucinic@netspace.net.au>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:56:48 +1000
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Jason,

CORRECT! Anything under 6=E2=80=9D in width can be adequately balanced =
in a single plane.

Do this all the time with industrial fans. Same physics apply!

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Sukey
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 11:56 AM
To: timmmurphh@gmail.com
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels

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Tim,

        I've found the same with my balancer (with steel and alloy =
wheels, I've not tried wires).  Narrow wheels (4.5-5.5") balance much =
easier with a single plane balance.  I assume it's because the two =
planes are not distanced apart enough.

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Jason Sukey

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 6:35 PM, <timmmurphh@gmail.com> wrote:

I just got my balancer working again and tried balancing a 4-1/2 inch =
wide and a 5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR4A and a TR5.  =
If I try to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very large weights, =
like 4 to 5 ounces that are to be added.  If I do a single plane, static =
balance, then I get reasonable weights to add like a couple of ounces at =
most.  I think that unless the wire wheel has been recently trued very =
accurately this is going to be the result.  The wheels have large run =
out compared to alloy wheels.  What have others who have tried to =
balance wire wheels come up with?

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I got lucky with my balancer and could just use one of the cones and the =
large =E2=80=9CT-nut=E2=80=9D which mated up with the OD of the spline =
tube perfectly.

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Tim Murphy


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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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apply!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason =
Sukey<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 September 2016 11:56 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> timmmurphh@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> FOT =
list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Balancing wire =
wheels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Tim,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; I've found the same with my balancer (with steel and alloy =
wheels, I've not tried wires).&nbsp; Narrow wheels (4.5-5.5&quot;) =
balance much easier with a single plane balance.&nbsp; I assume it's =
because the two planes are not distanced apart =
enough.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>Jason =
Sukey<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'>On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at =
6:35 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timmmurphh@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">timmmurphh@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'>I just got my balancer working again and tried balancing a 4-1/2 =
inch wide and a 5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR4A and a =
TR5.&nbsp; If I try to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very large =
weights, like 4 to 5 ounces that are to be added.&nbsp; If I do a single =
plane, static balance, then I get reasonable weights to add like a =
couple of ounces at most.&nbsp; I think that unless the wire wheel has =
been recently trued very accurately this is going to be the =
result.&nbsp; The wheels have large run out compared to alloy =
wheels.&nbsp; What have others who have tried to balance wire wheels =
come up with?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'>I got lucky with my balancer and could just use one of the cones =
and the large =E2=80=9CT-nut=E2=80=9D which mated up with the OD of the =
spline tube perfectly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
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