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Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels
From: "M&M Hado" <mhado@att.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:40:23 -0500
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Tim,

 

I just got a set of 72 spoke 15 x 5 painted wires and took them to Discount
Tire here in Houston for mounting and balancing, knowing from past
experience that they could only secure the outer part of the wheel with a
cone inside the splined hub rather than the correct outside of the hub where
the knock-off nut rides.  

 

I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they now have an adaptor for
securing the outer part of the wheel which is a female cone which correctly
grabs the outer taper.  In addition, they say their machine and software now
allows them to put the weights (stick-on style) on the inside of the wheel
in only one plane, but it simulates a two-plane balance.  In other words,
the weight position is in the calculated circumferential location as normal
but also can be positioned "in or out" on the wheel to get the best effect
for both the inner and outer planes.

 

I put over 300 miles on them over the weekend at freeway speeds and they
seemed very smooth so I'm pleased so far.  If you have a Discount Tire store
in your state, you might consider trying them, assuming they have the
correct adaptors.

 

Mike

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
timmmurphh@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:36 PM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Balancing wire wheels

 

I just got my balancer working again and tried balancing a 4-1/2 inch wide
and a 5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR4A and a TR5.  If I try
to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very large weights, like 4 to 5
ounces that are to be added.  If I do a single plane, static balance, then I
get reasonable weights to add like a couple of ounces at most.  I think that
unless the wire wheel has been recently trued very accurately this is going
to be the result.  The wheels have large run out compared to alloy wheels.
What have others who have tried to balance wire wheels come up with?

 

I got lucky with my balancer and could just use one of the cones and the
large "T-nut" which mated up with the OD of the spline tube perfectly.

 

Tim Murphy


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 just got a set of 72 spoke 15 x 5 painted wires and took them to =
Discount Tire here in Houston for mounting and balancing, knowing from =
past experience that they could only secure the outer part of the wheel =
with a cone inside the splined hub rather than the correct outside of =
the hub where the knock-off nut rides.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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 was pleasantly surprised to learn that they now have an adaptor for =
securing the outer part of the wheel which is a female cone which =
correctly grabs the outer taper.&nbsp; In addition, they say their =
machine and software now allows them to put the weights (stick-on style) =
on the inside of the wheel in only one plane, but it simulates a =
two-plane balance.&nbsp; In other words, the weight position is in the =
calculated circumferential location as normal but also can be positioned =
&#8220;in or out&#8221; on the wheel to get the best effect for both the =
inner and outer planes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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 put over 300 miles on them over the weekend at freeway speeds and they =
seemed very smooth so I&#8217;m pleased so far.&nbsp; If you have a =
Discount Tire store in your state, you might consider trying them, =
assuming they have the correct adaptors.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>timmmurphh@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 27, 2016 =
5:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] =
Balancing wire wheels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just got =
my balancer working again and tried balancing a 4-1/2 inch wide and a =
5-1/2 inch wide wire wheel off of a Triumph TR4A and a TR5.&nbsp; If I =
try to do a 2-plane or dynamic balance, I get very large weights, like 4 =
to 5 ounces that are to be added.&nbsp; If I do a single plane, static =
balance, then I get reasonable weights to add like a couple of ounces at =
most.&nbsp; I think that unless the wire wheel has been recently trued =
very accurately this is going to be the result.&nbsp; The wheels have =
large run out compared to alloy wheels.&nbsp; What have others who have =
tried to balance wire wheels come up with?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I got lucky =
with my balancer and could just use one of the cones and the large =
&#8220;T-nut&#8221; which mated up with the OD of the spline tube =
perfectly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Tim Murphy<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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