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Re: [Fot] TR4 Motor & Transmission Mounting

To: "'Thomas Boyd'" <tom@trenterprises.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Motor & Transmission Mounting
From: "Marcel Van Mulders" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 21:47:30 +0200
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By coincidence, I also use the Land Rover mountings : they are hard and =
very strong and fit without modifications on the chassis.
Marcel

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Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Thomas Boyd
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2016 09:47
Aan: 'Tony Drews'; 'Stephen Borowski'
CC: fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR4 Motor & Transmission Mounting



Hi,

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We use the Land Rover mountings on all our competition cars. Original =
part number ANR1808 (130985HD)

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Cheers,

=20

Thomas Boyd

TR Enterprises

Dale Lane

Blidworth

NG21 0TG

01623 793807

 <http://www.trenterprises.com/> www.trenterprises.com

 <http://www.triumphspecialtuning.com/> www.triumphspecialtuning.com

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: 12 October 2016 01:37
To: Stephen Borowski <biznzman@pacbell.net>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Motor & Transmission Mounting

=20

I've used heavy duty front mounts from Cambridge in the UK.  The =
standard ones I'd kill in a year or two, these have been in the car for =
probably 10 years and are rock solid.  Shipping was almost as much as =
the mounts themselves.

Tony Drews

At 06:44 PM 10/11/2016, Stephen Borowski wrote:



Hello All,
I was thinking of moving the entire drive train appx 1 inch back but =
have changed my mine. I didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t know the =
sanctioning bodies would not approve. Its not worth the hassle!

I did find out that the old TR Bits does sell upgraded front motor =
mounts. About $40 each. Has any one used them or something close to =
this? =20

Thxs. Steve








On Oct 10, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net > wrote:

I don't know why you would need to.
I have an IRS car with coil overs on the front and made adjustable =
spring perches for the rear, I use a lightweight battery behind the =
passenger seat and my car corner weights to 49.9% cross weight. I could =
have nailed it to 50% but settled for the .1% off
It's surprising how well these cars will balance without a lot of =
effort.
Jung

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Chip Collingwood <  =




better check your sanctioning body.....it's usually not an approved =
modification.

you would be surprised what an inch difference in weight placement makes =
in the corner weighting of a car, especially the engine and trans. If =
you've ever used a tongue scale to balance your trailer load you can =
imagine what moving the engine and trans will do to a 2000lb car.

Chip Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com <http://theukmotorsports.com/>=20
(804) 564-1839

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Richard Taylor <tarch@bellsouth.net> =
wrote:

Moving the engine mounting point is not likely to move the CG.

Richard L.Taylor,Jr.,  FAIA

TAYLOR     ARCHITECTURE

112 Krog Street, Suite196

Atlanta,    Georgia   30307

Tel.              (404) 223-1313 <tel:%28404%29%20223-1313>=20

FAX             (404) 223-1312 <tel:%28404%29%20223-1312>=20

Cell              (404) 660-4920 <tel:%28404%29%20660-4920>=20

   <http://taylor-architecture.com/> taylor-architecture.com

   tarch@bellsouth.net




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mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Borowski

Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2016 7:57 AM

To: FOT Triumph

Subject: [Fot] TR4 Motor & Transmission Mounting

Anyone have any experience with moving the engine mounting rearwards to

possibly improve weight ballance?

Any improvements to just the engine or transmission mounts?

Thxs Steve

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[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tony=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>I've used heavy duty front mounts from Cambridge in =
the=20
UK.&nbsp; The standard ones I'd kill in a year or two, these have been =
in the=20
car for probably 10 years and are rock solid.&nbsp; Shipping was almost =
as much=20
as the mounts themselves.<BR><BR>Tony Drews<BR><BR>At 06:44 PM =
10/11/2016,=20
Stephen Borowski wrote:<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Hello All,<BR>I was thinking of moving the entire =
drive=20
  train appx 1 inch back but have changed my mine. I =
didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t know the=20
  sanctioning bodies would not approve. Its not worth the =
hassle!<BR><BR>I did=20
  find out that the old TR Bits does sell upgraded front motor mounts. =
About $40=20
  each. Has any one used them or something close to this?&nbsp; =
<BR><BR>Thxs.=20
  Steve<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 10, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Jim Gray &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net";>toodamnfunky@comcast.net</A> =
&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR><BR>I don't know why you would need to.<BR>I have an IRS =
car with=20
    coil overs on the front and made adjustable spring perches for the =
rear, I=20
    use a lightweight battery behind the passenger seat and my car =
corner=20
    weights to 49.9% cross weight. I could have nailed it to 50% but =
settled for=20
    the .1% off<BR>It's surprising how well these cars will balance =
without a=20
    lot of effort.<BR>Jung<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone<BR><BR>On Oct 9, =
2016, at=20
    8:52 AM, Chip Collingwood &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:chip@theukmotorsports.com";>=20
    chip@theukmotorsports.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal>better check your sanctioning body.....it's =
usually not=20
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inch=20
      difference in weight placement makes in the corner weighting of a =
car,=20
      especially the engine and trans. If you've ever used a tongue =
scale to=20
      balance your trailer load you can imagine what moving the engine =
and trans=20
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      =
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">From: Fot [<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>=20
      mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</A>] On Behalf Of Stephen=20
      Borowski<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">Sent: Sunday, =
October 09,=20
      2016 7:57 AM<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">To: FOT=20
Triumph<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
      style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm; mso-margin-top-alt: 0cm">Subject:=20
      [Fot] TR4 Motor &amp; Transmission Mounting<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">Anyone have any =
experience=20
      with moving the engine mounting rearwards to<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">possibly improve =
weight=20
      ballance?<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
      style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm; mso-margin-top-alt: 0cm">Any=20
      improvements to just the engine or transmission =
mounts?<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">Thxs =
Steve<o:p></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt">Florida HURRICANE =
racing this=20
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