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To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 06:07:17 -0700
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Thanks
I grew up in LA and have driven many of those roads and at least been
through many of those towns, albeit over 15 years ago. Been on a few in my
Healey, but never the whole way from Oregon. Something I have long wanted
to do.Was going to spend the night in Mammoth with a old pal,but he will be
in LA helping his mother in law move. When I first started driving to
Mammoth,  june lake area all that existed at manzinar was an obelisk that
said Manzanar circa 1972.
Cheers

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Fri, May 7, 2021, 7:36 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Why the hate for 395? Sure, some parts--mostly the southern end (avoid
> Kramer Junction if you can)--are hot and boring, but parts are some of my
> favorite pieces of road. You have Mono Lake--well, what's left of it--and
> you can stop and check out the tufas. There is a Chevron station at the
> corner of 120 (Yosemite) and 395 that has a deli with great chow (it used
> to have a trapeze, never figured that out). Just south you can take a bre=
ak
> from the 4-lane and take the June Lake Loop for some cool air and scenery=
.
> The little towns along the way are getting touristy--I think Bishop has a
> new microbrewery--and Independence, Lone Pine and Big Pine are, well,
> 'quaint' ('Tremors' was filmed near Lone Pine). Mt. Whitney is the talles=
t
> in the contiguous US, and almost always has some snow, but I can never
> figure out which of the three large peaks is Whitney. It's always
> fascinating to me to drive along the base of a mountain range that rises
> almost straight up from the flat Owens Valley, less than a mile from the
> highway.
>
> Some of the E-W 'crossover' roads are great for Healeys; Hwy 155 from 99
> to 395 into Wofford Heights/Lake Isabella--there's a microbrewery in
> Kernville--is a great Healey road, one of few that have caused me brake
> fade on the twisty downhill side (Delano is pretty rough, just keep movin=
g
> ;). Hwy 58 out of Bakersfield (avoid) through Tehachapi has a great road
> over the mountains (I have some footage, but it's 128MB). East of Lake
> Isabella on Hwy 178 is Walker pass, a fun and scenic ride (then you hit t=
he
> bad part of 395). I've passed the internment camp monument/museum a few
> times, but never stopped. I plan to someday; we shouldn't forget what we
> did to loyal Americans who happened to look a little different and have
> some aggressive relatives--we're doing it again, it seems--and if you don=
't
> know the story of the 442nd Infantry Regiment you should acquaint yoursel=
f:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
>
> I could go on, but don't want to give away ALL my secret, favorite roads.
> Anybody gonna do the Angeles Crest?
>
> Bob
>
> On 5/7/2021 1:00 PM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> *Having lived in Nevada for several years, I have driven route 395 severa=
l
> times to the Bay Area in an air conditioned car and would recommend not
> driving that route unless you are in the same. It is the most boring, hot
> and desolate highway in the country. God forbid anyone has a breakdown.
> Doesn=E2=80=99t take long for bones to bleach before another car passes b=
y. Just
> think of hours before you see one.*
>
>
>
> *John Sims*
>
> *www.healey6.com <http://www.healey6.com/>*
>
> *Matawan, NJ*
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Gary Anderson
> *Sent:* Friday, May 7, 2021 3:40 PM
> *To:* eyera3000@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?
>
>
>
> Ira, Based on the experience of a group of us who drove to the Ventura
> West Coast Meet in our Healeys many years ago, I would strongly suggest y=
ou
> rethink the idea of driving down 395. Yes, it's shorter in time, but it i=
s
> absolutely the most desolate, boring and hot (let me emphasize that) HOT
> drive you can possible imagine. There's a reason that the U.S. government
> put the internment camps out in that area during World War II -- there's
> nothing within 100 miles of the camps. When we were driving, one of the
> drivers called out on his CB -- "Stop the next time you see any shade alo=
ng
> the road" -- we drove for another hour before we saw a tree.
>
>
>
> Take a little more time and do the traditional route down Interstate 5,
> then cut over to 101 and follow that down to north of Los Angeles where y=
ou
> can cut over to BBL.
>
>
>
> Anyone else agree with me?
>
>
>
> Gary Anderson
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks<div dir=3D"auto">I grew up in LA and have driven m=
any of those roads and at least been through many of those towns, albeit ov=
er 15 years ago. Been on a few in my Healey, but never the whole way from O=
regon. Something I have long wanted to do.Was going to spend the night in M=
ammoth with a old pal,but he will be in LA helping his mother in law move. =
When I first started driving to Mammoth,=C2=A0 june lake area all that exis=
ted at manzinar was an obelisk that said Manzanar circa 1972.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Cheers<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto=
">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
 May 7, 2021, 7:36 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.ne=
t">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
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  <div>
    Why the hate for 395? Sure, some parts--mostly the southern end
    (avoid Kramer Junction if you can)--are hot and boring, but parts
    are some of my favorite pieces of road. You have Mono Lake--well,
    what&#39;s left of it--and you can stop and check out the tufas. There
    is a Chevron station at the corner of 120 (Yosemite) and 395 that
    has a deli with great chow (it used to have a trapeze, never figured
    that out). Just south you can take a break from the 4-lane and take
    the June Lake Loop for some cool air and scenery. The little towns
    along the way are getting touristy--I think Bishop has a new
    microbrewery--and Independence, Lone Pine and Big Pine are, well,
    &#39;quaint&#39; (&#39;Tremors&#39; was filmed near Lone Pine). Mt. Whi=
tney is the
    tallest in the contiguous US, and almost always has some snow, but I
    can never figure out which of the three large peaks is Whitney. It&#39;=
s
    always fascinating to me to drive along the base of a mountain range
    that rises almost straight up from the flat Owens Valley, less than
    a mile from the highway.<br>
    <br>
    Some of the E-W &#39;crossover&#39; roads are great for Healeys; Hwy 15=
5
    from 99 to 395 into Wofford Heights/Lake Isabella--there&#39;s a
    microbrewery in Kernville--is a great Healey road, one of few that
    have caused me brake fade on the twisty downhill side (Delano is
    pretty rough, just keep moving ;). Hwy 58 out of Bakersfield (avoid)
    through Tehachapi has a great road over the mountains (I have some
    footage, but it&#39;s 128MB). East of Lake Isabella on Hwy 178 is Walke=
r
    pass, a fun and scenic ride (then you hit the bad part of 395). I&#39;v=
e
    passed the internment camp monument/museum a few times, but never
    stopped. I plan to someday; we shouldn&#39;t forget what we did to loya=
l
    Americans who happened to look a little different and have some
    aggressive relatives--we&#39;re doing it again, it seems--and if you
    don&#39;t know the story of the 442nd Infantry Regiment you should
    acquaint yourself:<br>
    <br>
<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_St=
ates)" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4=
42nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)</a><br>
    <br>
    I could go on, but don&#39;t want to give away ALL my secret, favorite
    roads. Anybody gonna do the Angeles Crest?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 5/7/2021 1:00 PM, ahbn6--- via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span>Having lived in Nevada for several
              years, I have driven route 395 several times to the Bay
              Area in an air conditioned car and would recommend not
              driving that route unless you are in the same. It is the
              most boring, hot and desolate highway in the country. God
              forbid anyone has a breakdown. Doesn=E2=80=99t take long for =
bones
              to bleach before another car passes by. Just think of
              hours before you see one.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></b></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span>John Sims<u></u><u></u></span></b><=
/p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span><a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">www.healey6.com</a><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></b></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span>Matawan, NJ<u></u><u></u></span></b=
></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></b></p>
        <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in">
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys
            <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Be=
half Of </b>Gary
            Anderson<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 7, 2021 3:40 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira, Based on the experience of a group
            of us who drove to the Ventura West Coast Meet in our
            Healeys many years ago, I would strongly suggest you rethink
            the idea of driving down 395. Yes, it&#39;s shorter in time, bu=
t
            it is absolutely=C2=A0the most desolate, boring and hot (let me
            emphasize that) HOT drive you can possible imagine. There&#39;s
            a reason that the U.S. government put the internment camps
            out in that area during World War II -- there&#39;s nothing
            within 100 miles of the camps. When we were driving, one of
            the drivers called out on his CB -- &quot;Stop the next time yo=
u
            see any shade along the road&quot; -- we drove for another hour
            before we saw a tree.<u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Take a little more time and do the
              traditional route down Interstate 5, then cut over to 101
              and follow that down to north of Los Angeles where you can
              cut over to BBL.<u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyone else agree with me?<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Anderson<u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
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