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To: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?
From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 10:27:27 -0700
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Having driven up and down 395 maybe a hundred times between L.A. and =
Mammoth, I would simply caution everyone that there are very tightly =
patrolled speed traps in Independence, Lone Pine and Big Pine.  Even a =
few miles over the posted speed limit can get you a ticket.  And, =
slowing down needs to be complete by the time you pass that speed limit =
sign or you are risking a ticket.  My friends and I have been driving to =
Mammoth Mountain and other sites along the way since the late  =
1960=E2=80=99s and there are always Highway Patrol giving out tickets in =
these towns.  Yes, I have received my share. =20
It is a beautiful ride, especially if there is still snow on the peaks =
but can be very hot in the Mohave desert on the southern end.   I will =
look forward to seeing some of you at Big Bear next week.  Have a safe =
drive.

Ron Fine


From: Michael Oritt=20
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 4:25 AM
To: Bob Spidell=20
Cc: Austin Healey=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?

Bob Spidell said:  we shouldn't forget what we did to loyal Americans =
who happened to look a little different and have some aggressive =
relatives--we're doing it again, it seems--and if you don't know the =
story of the 442nd Infantry Regiment you should acquaint yourself:  =
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
--------------------------

Here here!!!

Best--Michael Oritt


On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:36 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:

  Why the hate for 395? Sure, some parts--mostly the southern end (avoid =
Kramer Junction if you can)--are hot and boring, but parts are some of =
my favorite pieces of road. You have Mono Lake--well, what's left of =
it--and you can stop and check out the tufas. There is a Chevron station =
at the corner of 120 (Yosemite) and 395 that has a deli with great chow =
(it used to have a trapeze, never figured that out). Just south you can =
take a break from the 4-lane and take the June Lake Loop for some cool =
air and scenery. The little towns along the way are getting touristy--I =
think Bishop has a new microbrewery--and Independence, Lone Pine and Big =
Pine are, well, 'quaint' ('Tremors' was filmed near Lone Pine). Mt. =
Whitney is the tallest in the contiguous US, and almost always has some =
snow, but I can never figure out which of the three large peaks is =
Whitney. It's always fascinating to me to drive along the base of a =
mountain range that rises almost straight up from the flat Owens Valley, =
less than a mile from the highway.

  Some of the E-W 'crossover' roads are great for Healeys; Hwy 155 from =
99 to 395 into Wofford Heights/Lake Isabella--there's a microbrewery in =
Kernville--is a great Healey road, one of few that have caused me brake =
fade on the twisty downhill side (Delano is pretty rough, just keep =
moving ;). Hwy 58 out of Bakersfield (avoid) through Tehachapi has a =
great road over the mountains (I have some footage, but it's 128MB). =
East of Lake Isabella on Hwy 178 is Walker pass, a fun and scenic ride =
(then you hit the bad part of 395). I've passed the internment camp =
monument/museum a few times, but never stopped. I plan to someday; we =
shouldn't forget what we did to loyal Americans who happened to look a =
little different and have some aggressive relatives--we're doing it =
again, it seems--and if you don't know the story of the 442nd Infantry =
Regiment you should acquaint yourself:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)

  I could go on, but don't want to give away ALL my secret, favorite =
roads. Anybody gonna do the Angeles Crest?

  Bob


  On 5/7/2021 1:00 PM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote:

    Having lived in Nevada for several years, I have driven route 395 =
several times to the Bay Area in an air conditioned car and would =
recommend not driving that route unless you are in the same. It is the =
most boring, hot and desolate highway in the country. God forbid anyone =
has a breakdown. Doesn=E2=80=99t take long for bones to bleach before =
another car passes by. Just think of hours before you see one.



    John Sims

    www.healey6.com

    Matawan, NJ



    From: Healeys mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net On Behalf Of =
Gary Anderson
    Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 3:40 PM
    To: eyera3000@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
    Subject: [Healeys] your trip to Conclave - Down 395?



    Ira, Based on the experience of a group of us who drove to the =
Ventura West Coast Meet in our Healeys many years ago, I would strongly =
suggest you rethink the idea of driving down 395. Yes, it's shorter in =
time, but it is absolutely the most desolate, boring and hot (let me =
emphasize that) HOT drive you can possible imagine. There's a reason =
that the U.S. government put the internment camps out in that area =
during World War II -- there's nothing within 100 miles of the camps. =
When we were driving, one of the drivers called out on his CB -- "Stop =
the next time you see any shade along the road" -- we drove for another =
hour before we saw a tree.



    Take a little more time and do the traditional route down Interstate =
5, then cut over to 101 and follow that down to north of Los Angeles =
where you can cut over to BBL.



    Anyone else agree with me?



    Gary Anderson


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<DIV>Having driven up and down 395 maybe a hundred times between L.A. =
and=20
Mammoth, I would simply caution everyone that there are very tightly =
patrolled=20
speed traps in Independence, Lone Pine and Big Pine.&nbsp; Even a few =
miles over=20
the posted speed limit can get you a ticket.&nbsp; And, slowing down =
needs to be=20
complete by the time you pass that speed limit sign or you are risking a =

ticket.&nbsp; My friends and I have been driving to Mammoth Mountain and =
other=20
sites along the way since the late&nbsp; 1960=E2=80=99s and there are =
always Highway=20
Patrol giving out tickets in these towns.&nbsp; Yes, I have received my=20
share.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>It is a beautiful ride, especially if there is still snow on the =
peaks but=20
can be very hot in the Mohave desert on the southern end.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
will=20
look forward to seeing some of you at Big Bear next week.&nbsp; Have a =
safe=20
drive.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ron Fine</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmichael.oritt@gmail.com>Michael Oritt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 08, 2021 4:25 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dbspidell@comcast.net>Bob Spidell</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>Austin Healey</A> =
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395?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: #3333ff">Bob Spidell =
said:&nbsp; <SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)">we shouldn't forget what we did to loyal =
Americans=20
who happened to look a little different and have some aggressive=20
relatives--we're doing it again, it seems--and if you don't know the =
story of=20
the 442nd Infantry Regiment you should acquaint yourself:&nbsp; =
</SPAN><A=20
href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_Sta=
tes)"=20
target=3D_blank>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(Un=
ited_States)</A></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)">--------------------------</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)">Here =
here!!!</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael =
Oritt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:36 PM Bob =
Spidell=20
&lt;<A>bspidell@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; =
MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
  <DIV>Why the hate for 395? Sure, some parts--mostly the southern end =
(avoid=20
  Kramer Junction if you can)--are hot and boring, but parts are some of =
my=20
  favorite pieces of road. You have Mono Lake--well, what's left of =
it--and you=20
  can stop and check out the tufas. There is a Chevron station at the =
corner of=20
  120 (Yosemite) and 395 that has a deli with great chow (it used to =
have a=20
  trapeze, never figured that out). Just south you can take a break from =
the=20
  4-lane and take the June Lake Loop for some cool air and scenery. The =
little=20
  towns along the way are getting touristy--I think Bishop has a new=20
  microbrewery--and Independence, Lone Pine and Big Pine are, well, =
'quaint'=20
  ('Tremors' was filmed near Lone Pine). Mt. Whitney is the tallest in =
the=20
  contiguous US, and almost always has some snow, but I can never figure =
out=20
  which of the three large peaks is Whitney. It's always fascinating to =
me to=20
  drive along the base of a mountain range that rises almost straight up =
from=20
  the flat Owens Valley, less than a mile from the highway.<BR><BR>Some =
of the=20
  E-W 'crossover' roads are great for Healeys; Hwy 155 from 99 to 395 =
into=20
  Wofford Heights/Lake Isabella--there's a microbrewery in Kernville--is =
a great=20
  Healey road, one of few that have caused me brake fade on the twisty =
downhill=20
  side (Delano is pretty rough, just keep moving ;). Hwy 58 out of =
Bakersfield=20
  (avoid) through Tehachapi has a great road over the mountains (I have =
some=20
  footage, but it's 128MB). East of Lake Isabella on Hwy 178 is Walker =
pass, a=20
  fun and scenic ride (then you hit the bad part of 395). I've passed =
the=20
  internment camp monument/museum a few times, but never stopped. I plan =
to=20
  someday; we shouldn't forget what we did to loyal Americans who =
happened to=20
  look a little different and have some aggressive relatives--we're =
doing it=20
  again, it seems--and if you don't know the story of the 442nd Infantry =

  Regiment you should acquaint yourself:<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_Sta=
tes)"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(Un=
ited_States)</A><BR><BR>I=20
  could go on, but don't want to give away ALL my secret, favorite =
roads.=20
  Anybody gonna do the Angeles Crest?<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>
  <DIV>On 5/7/2021 1:00 PM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote:<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN>Having lived in Nevada for several =
years, I have=20
    driven route 395 several times to the Bay Area in an air conditioned =
car and=20
    would recommend not driving that route unless you are in the same. =
It is the=20
    most boring, hot and desolate highway in the country. God forbid =
anyone has=20
    a breakdown. Doesn=E2=80=99t take long for bones to bleach before =
another car passes=20
    by. Just think of hours before you see =
one.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN>John Sims<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN><A href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.healey6.com</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN>Matawan, =
NJ<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B>&nbsp;</P>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BORDER-TOP: rgb(225,225,225) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: =
medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; =
PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B>From:</B> Healeys <A=20
    target=3D_blank>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</A> <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
    </B>Gary Anderson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 7, 2021 3:40 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    <A target=3D_blank>eyera3000@gmail.com</A>; <A=20
    target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Healeys] your=20
    trip to Conclave - Down 395?<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Ira, Based on the experience of a group of us =
who drove=20
    to the Ventura West Coast Meet in our Healeys many years ago, I =
would=20
    strongly suggest you rethink the idea of driving down 395. Yes, it's =
shorter=20
    in time, but it is absolutely the most desolate, boring and hot (let =
me=20
    emphasize that) HOT drive you can possible imagine. There's a reason =
that=20
    the U.S. government put the internment camps out in that area during =
World=20
    War II -- there's nothing within 100 miles of the camps. When we =
were=20
    driving, one of the drivers called out on his CB -- "Stop the next =
time you=20
    see any shade along the road" -- we drove for another hour before we =
saw a=20
    tree.<U></U><U></U></P>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Take a little more time and do the traditional =
route down=20
    Interstate 5, then cut over to 101 and follow that down to north of =
Los=20
    Angeles where you can cut over to BBL.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone else agree with =
me?<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Gary =
Anderson<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>
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