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I often see cars on the race track with either no or intermittent brake
lights, despite the fact that every car is checked for operative lights at
tech inspection. The reason they get thru tech is that the driver
invariably stands on the pedal whereas on the track seldom does one exert
this kind of force, and I believe the failure mode of pressure switches to
be that they slowly lose their sensitivity to pressure as the innards age
and harden.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 5:16 PM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
> This is a timely thread, as I was just talking yesterday with the expert
> panel at Conclave about this issue after I nearly got rear ended in Big
> Bear because my brake lights are not coming on until the pedal is depress=
ed
> nearly half way. Turns out Russ Thompson has converted several cars to a
> mechanical, pedal actuated switch with a simple bracket attached to the
> cross member/heater duct. I will be pursuing this over Memorial Day
> weekend.
>
> Bruce Steele
> Brea, CA
> 1960 BN7
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> Haskell via Healeys
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM
> To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>; kags@shaw.ca
> Cc: Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>; Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch
>
> For some reason, "--will" was added to the end of the link Michael gave:
>
>
> https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressure-A=
ctivated,391417.html
>
> I believe that the non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or
> lucar connectors) have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer require=
d.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
>
> On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> > This
> > link--https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P
> > ressure-Activated,391417.html--will
> > <https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressu
> > re-Activated,391417.html--will> take you to the Speedway site and the
> > Accel brake switch shown is touted to be American-made and useable on
> > Harleys, so perhaps this is what the original poster is looking for.
> >
> > Best--Michael Oritt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM Earl Kagna via Healeys
> >
> > Hi Brian:
> >
> > Yes, there was a problem years ago with brake light switches. It
> > may have been related to a lot of people switching to silicone
> > brake fluid.
> >
> > I don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley switch being compati=
ble,
> > but some of us tried Volkswagen switches that worked well. I do
> > recall one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up and installed a
> > micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that permanently fixed
> > the problem.
> >
> > I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches in the last 2-
> > 3 years =E2=80=93 all on BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 including on my ow=
n, and on our friend
> > DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems well. The word is that the parts n=
ow
> > being supplied are better. These switches came in Interpart boxes
> > and were sourced from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontario =E2=80=93 the=
y were
> > not particularly expensive.
> >
> > Be aware that there are 2 different switches used on the big
> > Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=
=80=93 uses a
> > copper sealing washer =E2=80=93 with screw type wire terminals, and=
the
> > later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal with fast-on
> > terminals.
> >
> > I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean mentioned, but I=
=E2=80=99ll bet
> > that all pertinent information that is possible will be there -
> > knowing Roger!
> >
> > Earl Kagna
> >
> > Victoria BC
> >
> > BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
> >
> > *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> > via Healeys
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM
> > *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch
> >
> > I recall several years ago that there was a discussion on the poor
> > quality of Healey brake light switches. At that time several
> > people advised that a Harley brake light switch worked and worked
> > better than the original.
> >
> > I tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t know how to check=
by
> > subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can even be done. What I need t=
o know
> > is either the Harley part number or the years and model Harley
> > that the switches are from. Can anyone help.
> >
> > Brian Drab
> >
> > BJ8
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I oft=
en see cars on the race track with either no or intermittent brake lights, =
despite the fact that every car is checked for=C2=A0operative lights at tec=
h inspection.=C2=A0 The reason they get thru tech is that the driver invari=
ably stands on the pedal whereas on the track seldom does one exert this ki=
nd of force, and I believe the failure mode of pressure switches to be that=
they slowly lose their=C2=A0sensitivity to pressure as the innards age and=
harden.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael =
Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 5:16 PM Bruce Steele <<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeybruce@roadrunner.com">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This is a timely t=
hread, as I was just talking yesterday with the expert panel at Conclave ab=
out this issue after I nearly got rear ended in Big Bear because my brake l=
ights are not coming on until the pedal is depressed nearly half way.=C2=A0=
Turns out Russ Thompson has converted several cars to a mechanical, pedal =
actuated switch with a simple bracket attached to the cross member/heater d=
uct.=C2=A0 I will be pursuing this over Memorial Day weekend.<br>
<br>
Bruce Steele<br>
Brea, CA<br>
1960 BN7<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell=
via Healeys<br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM<br>
To: Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:kags@shaw.ca"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">kags@shaw.ca</a><br>
Cc: Brian Drab <<a href=3D"mailto:bgdrab@redzone.ca"; target=3D"_blank">b=
gdrab@redzone.ca</a>>; Healey List <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch<br>
<br>
For some reason, "--will" was added to the end of the link Michae=
l gave:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P=
ressure-Activated,391417.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressure-Activated,=
391417.html</a><br>
<br>
I believe that the non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or lucar=
connectors) have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer required.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
<br>
On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:<br>
> This<br>
> link--<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Lig=
ht-Switch-P" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.speedwaymotor=
s.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P</a><br>
> ressure-Activated,391417.html--will<br>
> <<a href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light=
-Switch-Pressu" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.speedwaymo=
tors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressu</a><br>
> re-Activated,391417.html--will> take you to the Speedway site and t=
he <br>
> Accel brake switch shown is touted to be American-made and useable on =
<br>
> Harleys, so perhaps this is what the original poster is looking for.<b=
r>
><br>
> Best--Michael Oritt<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM Earl Kagna via Healeys <br>
> <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
s@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Brian:<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes, there was a problem years ago with brake light=
switches.=C2=A0 It<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0may have been related to a lot of people switching =
to silicone<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0brake fluid.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley swit=
ch being compatible,<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0but some of us tried Volkswagen switches that worke=
d well.=C2=A0 I do<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recall one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up a=
nd installed a<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that per=
manently fixed<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the problem.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches=
in the last 2-<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 years =E2=80=93 all on BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 in=
cluding on my own, and on our friend<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems well.=C2=A0 The wor=
d is that the parts now<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0being supplied are better.=C2=A0 These switches cam=
e in Interpart boxes<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and were sourced from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontar=
io =E2=80=93 they were<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not particularly expensive.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Be aware that there are 2 different switches used o=
n the big<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early B=
J8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 uses a<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0copper sealing washer =E2=80=93 with screw type wir=
e terminals, and the<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal wi=
th fast-on<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0terminals.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean =
mentioned, but I=E2=80=99ll bet<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that all pertinent information that is possible wil=
l be there -<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0knowing Roger!<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Earl Kagna<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Victoria BC<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From:* Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>> *On =
Behalf Of *Brian Drab<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0via Healeys<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To:* <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I recall several years ago that there was a discuss=
ion on the poor<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0quality of Healey brake light switches. At that tim=
e several<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0people advised that a Harley brake light switch wor=
ked and worked<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0better than the original.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t k=
now how to check by<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can even be don=
e. What I need to know<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is either the Harley part number or the years and m=
odel Harley<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that the switches are from. Can anyone help.<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian Drab<br>
><br>
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