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That is certainly consistent with the observed behavior of the switches =
as they age. And it seems they age much more quickly, presumably due to =
poor materials and/or construction. =20
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 3:29 PM
To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Cc: Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net>; kags@shaw.ca; Austin Healey =
<Healeys@autox.team.net>; Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch
=20
I often see cars on the race track with either no or intermittent brake =
lights, despite the fact that every car is checked for operative lights =
at tech inspection. The reason they get thru tech is that the driver =
invariably stands on the pedal whereas on the track seldom does one =
exert this kind of force, and I believe the failure mode of pressure =
switches to be that they slowly lose their sensitivity to pressure as =
the innards age and harden.=20
=20
Best--Michael Oritt
=20
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 5:16 PM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com =
This is a timely thread, as I was just talking yesterday with the expert =
panel at Conclave about this issue after I nearly got rear ended in Big =
Bear because my brake lights are not coming on until the pedal is =
depressed nearly half way. Turns out Russ Thompson has converted =
several cars to a mechanical, pedal actuated switch with a simple =
bracket attached to the cross member/heater duct. I will be pursuing =
this over Memorial Day weekend.
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake light switch
For some reason, "--will" was added to the end of the link Michael gave:
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressure-A=
ctivated,391417.html
I believe that the non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or =
lucar connectors) have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer =
required.
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> This
> link--https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P
> ressure-Activated,391417.html--will
> <https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pressu
> re-Activated,391417.html--will> take you to the Speedway site and the=20
> Accel brake switch shown is touted to be American-made and useable on=20
> Harleys, so perhaps this is what the original poster is looking for.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM Earl Kagna via Healeys=20
>
> Hi Brian:
>
> Yes, there was a problem years ago with brake light switches. It
> may have been related to a lot of people switching to silicone
> brake fluid.
>
> I don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley switch being =
compatible,
> but some of us tried Volkswagen switches that worked well. I do
> recall one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up and installed a
> micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that permanently fixed
> the problem.
>
> I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches in the last 2-
> 3 years =E2=80=93 all on BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 including on my =
own, and on our friend
> DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems well. The word is that the parts =
now
> being supplied are better. These switches came in Interpart boxes
> and were sourced from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontario =E2=80=93 =
they were
> not particularly expensive.
>
> Be aware that there are 2 different switches used on the big
> Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early BJ8=E2=80=99s =
=E2=80=93 uses a
> copper sealing washer =E2=80=93 with screw type wire terminals, =
and the
> later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal with fast-on
> terminals.
>
> I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean mentioned, but =
I=E2=80=99ll bet
> that all pertinent information that is possible will be there -
> knowing Roger!
>
> Earl Kagna
>
> Victoria BC
>
> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch
>
> I recall several years ago that there was a discussion on the poor
> quality of Healey brake light switches. At that time several
> people advised that a Harley brake light switch worked and worked
> better than the original.
>
> I tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t know how to =
check by
> subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can even be done. What I need =
to know
> is either the Harley part number or the years and model Harley
> that the switches are from. Can anyone help.
>
> Brian Drab
>
> BJ8
>
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>That is certainly =
consistent with the observed behavior of the switches as they age. =
=C2=A0And it seems they age much more quickly, presumably due to poor =
materials and/or construction.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Bruce =
Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Brea, =
CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
May 21, 2021 3:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Steele =
<healeybruce@roadrunner.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Haskell =
<rchaskell@earthlink.net>; kags@shaw.ca; Austin Healey =
<Healeys@autox.team.net>; Brian Drab =
<bgdrab@redzone.ca><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake light =
switch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I often see cars on the =
race track with either no or intermittent brake lights, despite the fact =
that every car is checked for operative lights at tech =
inspection. The reason they get thru tech is that the driver =
invariably stands on the pedal whereas on the track seldom does one =
exert this kind of force, and I believe the failure mode of pressure =
switches to be that they slowly lose their sensitivity to pressure =
as the innards age and harden. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Fri, May 21, 2021 at 5:16 PM Bruce Steele <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>=
> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>This is a timely thread, as I was just =
talking yesterday with the expert panel at Conclave about this issue =
after I nearly got rear ended in Big Bear because my brake lights are =
not coming on until the pedal is depressed nearly half way. Turns =
out Russ Thompson has converted several cars to a mechanical, pedal =
actuated switch with a simple bracket attached to the cross =
member/heater duct. I will be pursuing this over Memorial Day =
weekend.<br><br>Bruce Steele<br>Brea, CA<br>1960 =
BN7<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Healeys [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob =
Haskell via Healeys<br>Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:20 PM<br>To: =
Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:kags@shaw.ca"; target=3D"_blank">kags@shaw.ca</a><br>Cc: =
Brian Drab <<a href=3D"mailto:bgdrab@redzone.ca"; =
target=3D"_blank">bgdrab@redzone.ca</a>>; Healey List <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: =
[Healeys] Brake light switch<br><br>For some reason, "--will" =
was added to the end of the link Michael gave:<br><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pr=
essure-Activated,391417.html" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light=
-Switch-Pressure-Activated,391417.html</a><br><br>I believe that the =
non-servo brake light switches (screws terminal or lucar connectors) =
have a tapered thread, no copper sealing washer =
required.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell<br>Austin Healey 3000 =
BN7/BT7 registrar<br><br>On 5/19/21 7:51 PM, Michael Oritt =
wrote:<br>> This<br>> link--<a =
href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-P"=
=
target=3D"_blank">https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light=
-Switch-P</a><br>> ressure-Activated,391417.html--will<br>> <<a =
href=3D"https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light-Switch-Pr=
essu" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Accel-181101-Brake-Light=
-Switch-Pressu</a><br>> re-Activated,391417.html--will> take you =
to the Speedway site and the <br>> Accel brake switch shown is touted =
to be American-made and useable on <br>> Harleys, so perhaps this is =
what the original poster is looking for.<br>><br>> Best--Michael =
Oritt<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM =
Earl Kagna via Healeys <br>> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>> =
wrote:<br>><br>> Hi =
Brian:<br>><br>> Yes, there was a problem years =
ago with brake light switches. It<br>> may =
have been related to a lot of people switching to silicone<br>> =
brake fluid.<br>><br>> I =
don=E2=80=99t recall anything about a Harley switch being =
compatible,<br>> but some of us tried Volkswagen =
switches that worked well. I do<br>> recall =
one BJ8 owner here that eventually gave up and installed a<br>> =
micro switch kit from a hotrodder supplier that permanently =
fixed<br>> the problem.<br>><br>> =
I have replaced 3 (or maybe 4) brake light switches in the =
last 2-<br>> 3 years =E2=80=93 all on =
BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 including on my own, and on our =
friend<br>> DM=E2=80=99s car, and all seems =
well. The word is that the parts now<br>> =
being supplied are better. These switches came in Interpart =
boxes<br>> and were sourced from Bob Yule at =
Autofarm in Ontario =E2=80=93 they were<br>> not =
particularly expensive.<br>><br>> Be aware that =
there are 2 different switches used on the big<br>> =
Healey (6 cyl) up to and including the very early BJ8=E2=80=99s =
=E2=80=93 uses a<br>> copper sealing washer =
=E2=80=93 with screw type wire terminals, and the<br>> =
later BJ8 which I believe is a taper thread seal with =
fast-on<br>> terminals.<br>><br>> =
I have not seen Roger=E2=80=99s articles that Jean =
mentioned, but I=E2=80=99ll bet<br>> that all =
pertinent information that is possible will be there -<br>> =
knowing Roger!<br>><br>> Earl =
Kagna<br>><br>> Victoria =
BC<br>><br>> BJ8, BT7 =
tri-carb<br>><br>> *From:* Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a><br>> =
<mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>> *On Behalf =
Of *Brian Drab<br>> via Healeys<br>> =
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:00 PM<br>> =
*To:* <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>> =
*Subject:* [Healeys] Brake light switch<br>><br>> =
I recall several years ago that there was a discussion on =
the poor<br>> quality of Healey brake light =
switches. At that time several<br>> people advised =
that a Harley brake light switch worked and worked<br>> =
better than the original.<br>><br>> I =
tried checking the archives but I don=E2=80=99t know how to check =
by<br>> subject rather date =E2=80=93 if it can =
even be done. What I need to know<br>> is either =
the Harley part number or the years and model Harley<br>> =
that the switches are from. Can anyone =
help.<br>><br>> Brian =
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