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To: "'richard mayor'" <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query
From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:26:27 -0400
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I=E2=80=99m just imagining if we were all there =
=E2=80=9Chelping=E2=80=9D Simon, the =E2=80=9Cdiscussions=E2=80=9D about =
what the best method is.  That would be good for at least one case of =
beer! LOL

=20

Mirek

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of richard =
mayor via Healeys
Sent: September 27, 2021 12:51 PM
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com =
Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
To: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =

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Simon,

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You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic =
tool.  Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove the =
plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, =
finish the alignment and tighten the bolts.=20

=20

Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. =
One of you can then easily lift or lower the back end of the =
transmission to make things line up.

=20

When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head =
between it and the firewall.  Because the engine is well balanced on its =
motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.  It will do =
no damage.  The engine in this position is well suited to receive the =
transmission.  I then use the floor jack to get the front of the =
transmision to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward =
using the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.   =
Make sure the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output =
flange as needed to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.  =
I have used this method many times with success doing it all by myself.  =
Take your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never =
let the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.  =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times.=20

=20

Richard

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =

=20

Thank you everybody for your replies.=20

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Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the =
alignment tool back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and =
I=E2=80=99ll try that.

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I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use =
than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate =
to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider =
than the hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put =
it through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto =
the flywheel.=20

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Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the =
clutch plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an =
instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions.=20

=20

Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant =
cure missed.

=20

No slop in the  clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and =
clevis pin were in a bad way although that had not  -   previously =
=E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.

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I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. =
(Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, =
of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importance =
attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His =
maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be =
sure to put them in per the book).

=20

I did have a jack under the engine and will again.=20

=20

Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to =
try again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the =
engine/gearbox being at compatible angles.

=20

No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where =
an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.

=20

Simon

=20

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99m just imagining if we =
were all there =E2=80=9Chelping=E2=80=9D Simon, the =
=E2=80=9Cdiscussions=E2=80=9D about what the best method is.=C2=A0 That =
would be good for at least one case of beer! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>richard mayor =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> September 27, 2021 12:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: =
New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: =
<b>richard mayor</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Da=
te: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch =
query<br>To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel =
using the plastic tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover just enough to hold the =
disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then insert the metal input =
shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back =
the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the back end =
of the transmission to make things line up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of =
the cylinder head between it and the firewall.&nbsp; Because the engine =
is well balanced on its motor mounts it does not put much pressure on =
the firewall.&nbsp; It will do no damage.&nbsp; The engine in this =
position is well suited to receive the transmission.&nbsp; I then use =
the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the right level. =
Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise or =
lower the rear of the transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.&nbsp; I have used =
this method many times with success doing it all by myself.&nbsp; Take =
your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let =
the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.&nbsp; =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thank you everybody for your replies. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by =
moving the alignment tool back and forth, up/down seems very sensible =
and I=E2=80=99ll try that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was =
easier to use than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug =
the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of =
the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of the cover. With the =
shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch plate and then fight =
the pair up and onto the flywheel. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if =
I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might =
have produced an instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by =
such questions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. =
Another instant cure missed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>No slop in the&nbsp; clutch lever bushings. The =
slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin were in a bad way although that =
had not&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; previously =E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve =
ordered new ones anyhow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 =
and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =
=E2=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the =
importance attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a =
teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, =
but I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the =
book).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I did have a jack under the engine and will again. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll =
just have to try again, paying great attention to the plate being =
centred and the engine/gearbox being at compatible =
angles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely =
a task where an Arnie-lookalike is extremely =
useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><=
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