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Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query
From: richard mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:50:42 -0700
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From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
To: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>


Simon,

You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic
tool.  Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove the
plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt,
finish the alignment and tighten the bolts.

Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. One
of you can then easily lift or lower the back end of the transmission to
make things line up.

When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head
between it and the firewall.  Because the engine is well balanced on its
motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.  It will do no
damage.  The engine in this position is well suited to receive the
transmission.  I then use the floor jack to get the front of the
transmision to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using
the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.   Make sure
the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as
needed to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.  I have used
this method many times with success doing it all by myself.  Take your time
and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the weight of
the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.  Use the floor jact to
support the weight of the transmission at all times.

Richard

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

>
>
> Thank you everybody for your replies.
>
>
>
> Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the alignme=
nt tool
> back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try that.
>
>
>
> I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use
> than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate =
to
> the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider than
> the hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it
> through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto the
> flywheel.
>
>
>
> Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clu=
tch plate
> on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=E2=
=80=99m way
> past being offended by such questions.
>
>
>
> Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure
> missed.
>
>
>
> No slop in the  clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and c=
levis pin
> were in a bad way although that had not  -   previously =E2=80=93 impinge=
d. I=E2=80=99ve
> ordered new ones anyhow.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30.
> (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, of=
 Michael=E2=80=99s in
> which he makes reference to the importance attached to these bolts as a
> =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as =
you=E2=80=99d expect, but
> I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the book).
>
>
>
> I did have a jack under the engine and will again.
>
>
>
> Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to tr=
y again,
> paying great attention to the plate being centred and the engine/gearbox
> being at compatible angles.
>
>
>
> No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where
> an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class=3D=
"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">richard mayor</b> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch=
 query<br>To:  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>sim=
on.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Simon,</div><div><br></div><div>You can present the clutch and cover to =
the flywheel using the plastic tool.=C2=A0 Tighten the cover just enough to=
 hold the disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then insert the metal i=
nput shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. <b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>Another aid is to put an old fan belt around th=
e back the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the back =
end of the transmission to make things line up.</div><div><br></div><div>Wh=
en I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head between=
 it and the firewall.=C2=A0 Because the engine is well balanced on its moto=
r mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.=C2=A0 It will do no=
 damage.=C2=A0 The engine in this position is well suited to receive the tr=
ansmission.=C2=A0 I then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmi=
sion to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fa=
n belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Make sur=
e the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as nee=
ded to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.=C2=A0 I have used=
 this method many times with success doing it all by myself.=C2=A0 Take you=
r time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the we=
ight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.=C2=A0 Use the =
floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all times. <br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>Richard<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank">simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thank y=
ou everybody for your replies. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Richa=
rd=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool=
 back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try that.<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I said that I thought the black plastic =
alignment tool was easier to use than the shaft because, with plastic tool,=
 one can plug the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no=
 part of the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of the cover. With t=
he shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch plate and then fight t=
he pair up and onto the flywheel. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Tw=
o people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch =
plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=
=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions. <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Anot=
her instant cure missed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>No slop in t=
he=C2=A0 clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin=
 were in a bad way although that had not=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 previously =E2=
=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:=
00 and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=
=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importanc=
e attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His m=
aths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be sure=
 to put them in per the book).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I did =
have a jack under the engine and will again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span>Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just hav=
e to try again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the e=
ngine/gearbox being at compatible angles.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span>No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task wh=
ere an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div>

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