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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

To: "simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>, richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:29:08 -0700
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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--></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D=
'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon=
,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is e=
asier to centre the clutch disk and bolt up the transmission if the engine =
isn=E2=80=99t in the car!</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Just saying=E2=80=A6 Harold</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border=
-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">Simon Lachlan via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, Septembe=
r 28, 2021 4:29 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>r=
ichard mayor</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>He=
aleys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query</p></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3D=
EN-GB>OK Richard, I get that. I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I do confess to=
, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=
=99ve been sitting on the cold garage floor with my head, at a most uncomfo=
rtable height, where the gearbox would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all=
 up by eye. Hard to explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and tr=
y to centre it, by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cpla=
te =E2=80=93 release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). I=
dea being to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way ro=
und with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I mean.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>What, I think, was happening=
 was that the plate would move slightly off centre as the bolts were tighte=
ned up. One time, I got them precisely equidistant, but the shaft would not=
 go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve reverted to my previous method which was to ti=
ghten up the bolts, little by little, whilst constantly checking the shaft =
for perfect in/out movement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-GB>By that method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and=
 I just await another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I shall support it underneath if I =
can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for t=
hat and that=E2=80=99ll be tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks for your input,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-GB>Since you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns a=
t each time on each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1=
,2 3. 4 etc.&nbsp; It's not like a wheel that must be centered using specia=
l tapered nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be &quo=
t;centered&quot; .... just clamped down uniformly.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 a=
t 1:57 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.la=
chlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0=
in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve b=
een doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 o=E2=80=99clock,=
 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressi=
vely, round and round about one turn at a time. Using the progress of the d=
owels as a reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span l=
ang=3DEN-GB>Are you suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc?=
 Progressively around the flywheel??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left=
:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>An interesting difference. I could start at the =
area from which =E2=80=93 I think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off ce=
ntre=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DE=
N-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><b>From:</b> richard =
mayor &lt;<span lang=3DEN-GB><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";><span=
 lang=3DEN-US>boyracer466@gmail.com</span></a></span>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
28 September 2021 02:12<br><b>To:</b> <span lang=3DEN-GB><a href=3D"mailto:=
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"><span lang=3DEN-US>simon.lachlan@alexare=
vel.plus.com</span></a></span><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Cl=
utch query<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'=
><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left=
:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>When you tighten the cover bolts are you doing i=
t progressively?&nbsp; That is, tighten each one a bit at a time as you mov=
e around the bolt circle?&nbsp; That's the way to do it. <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:au=
to;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>=
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:56 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexare=
vel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtex=
t 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB>Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB>Hi. Thanks for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>You can present the clutch=
 and cover to the flywheel using the plastic tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover =
just enough to hold the disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then inse=
rt the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten=
 the bolts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li cla=
ss=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph s=
tyle=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Yes, I did work that ou=
t. And put it into practise. I reckon that I was almost there when one of t=
he three little springs in the centre of the housing sprang out. So I had t=
o take it all out and start again. No worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of=
 practise.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmai=
l-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it centralized when it=E2=80=99s=
 all loose but, as I tighten the bolts, opposite after opposite, it seems t=
o move off centre by about 2mm. Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a my=
stery as I=E2=80=99d guess I get it pretty tight before it starts to move. =
ie, it moves when it shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? Maybe the pl=
ate is staying still but the centre of the housing shifts as the springs ti=
ghten up.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail=
-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps so can sit on the floor wi=
th my head sticking up where the gearbox would sit. PITA getting in and out=
, but effective. See pic.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margi=
n-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Another aid is to put an old fan belt arou=
nd the back the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the =
back end of the transmission to make things line up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m71843401=
84691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=3D=
EN-GB>I use an old heavy lifting sling which achieves the same thing<o:p></=
o:p></span></li></ol></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder h=
ead between it and the firewall.&nbsp; Because the engine is well balanced =
on its motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.&nbsp; It=
 will do no damage.&nbsp; The engine in this position is well suited to rec=
eive the transmission.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981=
097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>=C3=98</span><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-si=
ze:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of scaffolding plank under the sum=
p. About 12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by 2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge a=
ttention to the relative levels of engine and gearbox.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp; I then use the floor ja=
ck to get the front of the transmision to the right level. Then you can gui=
de the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the =
transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the transmission is in gear so you can =
turn the rear output flange as needed to get the clutch and input shaft spl=
ines to line up.&nbsp; I have used this method many times with success doin=
g it all by myself.&nbsp; Take your time and with a bit of finesse it shoul=
d slide right in. Never let the weight of the transmission hang on the inpu=
t shaft and clutch.&nbsp; Use the floor jact to support the weight of the t=
ransmission at all times. <o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagrap=
h style=3D'mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I will. For sure.<o:=
p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m718434=
0184691913754msolistparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754mso=
listparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
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