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To: "Ferguson, Darrell" <dfergus@bactc.com>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Glass
From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:10:49 -0400
        Did I miss something in the rule book on flush mounted glass? Page 54 of
my SCTA rule book says that "Windows must be mounted in the stock fashion
or fastened to the inside of the window openings". And on page 55 under /GC
it says "The following items must be retained in the stock location and of
the same year as the body: ....windows,...window trim,... That doesn't
sound like a flush mount to me. 
        Now for /CC on page 52 it says "Window openings may be covered by flat
plates on the outside of the opening".

        John Beckett



At 09:01 AM 5/25/99 -0700, Ferguson, Darrell wrote:
>Kvach- as to your e-mail concerning aerodynamics in the altered class,
>particularly in reference to front airdams, the rule has been changed so
>that you can build any airdam you wish, provided it does not extend farther
>forward than the leading edge of the front bumper. Also as to mounting of
>glass, you can flush front windows, the rule states that the windows must be
>mounted in their stock location. When removing window trim, this smooths out
>that surface, and allows the car to still be legal. Finally, tech inspection
>is not merely for safety inspection. I watched last year as a car that had
>entered the altered class was forced to run in comp coupe because of an
>illegal front end. I can tell this will be a fun one at tech this year for
>those of us with new cars !
>
>       Darrell Ferguson
>       BLACK RADON ENGINEERING
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:        Beth Butters [SMTP:bbutters@dmi.net]
>> Sent:        Monday, May 24, 1999 7:35 PM
>> To:  'land-speed@autox.team.net'; 'dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com'
>> Subject:     RE: To Duct or not to Duct, That is the Question...
>> 
>>                      The alteration youguys see on studebakers hasn't
>> been legal for some time,  many of these cars have been on the salt for 30
>> or 40 years  and this was a popular  thing to do before it was made
>> illegal .  These cars  have this modification grandfathered to them.  Just
>> like there are a few 4 wheel drive roadsters that are no longer legal.
>> Like I said  earlier, walking around the pits to see what is legal in a
>> class will get you into trouble, and know  one preticularly  cars what you
>> do as long  as its not a safety item until you qualify for a record.  If
>> set a record in my class with a car that  I see as not conforming to the
>> rules  I ' d consider protesting you.  You need to remember that  when you
>> go thew inspection the inspectors  are not  looking at you car  as to
>> class conformity, they are doing a safety inspection.  So  follow  what
>> the rules say in altered, no areodynamic alterations to the body excepting
>> the covering  of  openings with flat plates , no airdams unless!
>> !
>>  they are fActory,  no flush mounting of window glass,  if you want to
>> build a comp. Coup build  one.  If you are  building  an altered from a
>> modern marshmellow car its more areo stock than I could ever get my
>> Studebaker,  Whatr they have going for them is looks and overall length.
>> In my opinion you will get into hot water venting  high pressure  areas
>> thew body panels.   L. Kvach Butters  BB/G Alt.  CC   #1392
>> 
>> ----------
>> From:  dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com[SMTP:dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com]
>> Sent:  Monday, May 24, 1999 4:45 AM
>> To:  land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject:  Re: To Duct or not to Duct, That is the Question...
>> 
>> hello mayfield,(racers),i pretty much agree with your interpretation , and
>> along with yours would come the logical deduction (no pun intended) that
>> ANY penetration consists of three elements, an intake, a ducting section,
>> and a vent, weather it is a home air conditioning unit like your example,
>> or the other extreme such as a hole in a piece of aluminum foil, in which
>> the "intake" would be one face of the foil, the "duct" would be about
>> .008"
>> long (the thickness of the material), and the "vent" would be the other
>> face of the foil which the medium (air in our case) flowed towards.
>> therefore, a commercial naca duct placed in a body panel would also
>> consist
>> of these three elements, which leads us to the original question - is a
>> naca duct in a hood or fender considered a duct or a vent (or both !)
>> ?????
>> 
>> regards,
>> doug ferguson
>> black radon engineering
>> 
>> 
>



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