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RE: Boogie's Soap Box

To: joe boogie <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>, bbutters@dmi.net,
Subject: RE: Boogie's Soap Box
From: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:49:46 -0800 (PST)
Well, he said it all.  I know that the high tech
racers will creep into our sport more and more -
speed is what it's about, and 
$$$ + high tech=speed,
but please always save a place for the guys who
just want to race for the pure fun of it.  
I for one am having a lot more fun this year,
trying to bolt up an old flathead, than I did
last year, having my son in the staging lane with
a laptop wired to my car to try and lie to the
on-board computer So I could try to go faster
than the computer allowed! 
Always keep a place for the old iron racers!!!

--- joe boogie <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Friends, Members, and SCTA, ECTA, &USFRA
> officials:
> 
> 
>     ...Kvach is absolutely right about all the
> "unfairness" of new tech vs. 
> old tech...
> 
>     Exactly why I, (a pretty serious dragracer
> from the "old daze") don't 
> even bother to go to the drags anymore.  There
> is NOTHING there anymore  in 
> common with the way we raced. It's ruin't.
>    Who in their right mind wants to sit all day
> watching 
> computer/electronically controlled cars run
> against a breakout index???  As 
> exciting as watchin' paint dry.  -or for that
> matter, sit in a hot car in 
> the lanes the whole day thru waiting to make a
> couple of passes where some 
> computer nerd in the other lane "out chipped"
> ya?  Usta be it was Man & 
> machine against Man & machine.  Now it's all
> about electronics.  Bah Hum 
> bug.   Gawd I'd rather go to the lake... (-or
> "THE LAKES"!)
> 
> 
>           For what it's worth, heres my two
> cents worth;
> 
>       If the SCTA, USFRA, and ECTA don't pay
> attention to, and STOP 
> electronic "rule stretching" by the "New Tech"
> boys NOW,  LSR as we know it 
> will cease to exist because only the filthy
> rich will be able to race.
> 
>       LSR is what it is because there is "room"
> for those many who enjoy 
> racing with what many in other forms of
> "Motorsport" would laugh at, and 
> call "Obsolete" -if not downright antique! How
> many other types of racin' 
> have 40yr. old COMPETITIVE Racecars ?
> 
> 
>       I won't even watch NASCAR or NHRA because
> of what they have become.  
> I'm not that old, but I remember when "Stock
> Car" MEANT    STOCK, CAR.  
> period. Richard Petty used to build one from a
> car taken off a dealers 
> showroonm floor...Remember?   I remember; I
> still have my 1964 NASCAR 
> Mechanic's membership pin to prove it...
>       NASCAR today is a corporate farce; a
> charade. Every time a Good race 
> team actually finds an advantage (which is
> after all THE objective in 
> racing....)NASCAR, due to  some "corporate"
> coddling, interveines....  "It's 
> Entertainment" is what they say; and that's
> very TRUE.  They have succeeded 
> in taking the SPORT out of the equation.  It no
> longer is a sport. When they 
> threw away SPORT, they also threw away 
> fairness.
>       The"OUTLAWS" are rapidly following suit
> as well, and are well on the 
> way to becoming a place where RACERS cannot
> afford to race.
> 
> Any time you want to screw up a sport, just add
> MONEY   -from any source; 
> Purses, "sponsors", "corporate" or out of
> pocket.  That's what makes LSR so 
> special boys; there ain't no money; so
> (hopefully)  there ain't no 
> corruption.
> 
>      "GREED" ain't good.  Not in sport. Not
> anywhere.  As far as I'm 
> concerned ....Friends, Good times, and good
> clean Racin' fun IS.
> 
> 
>     ....Ok, I'll jump down off my soap box now.
> 
>       Really DO "have a nice day"!
>           -Doug Anderson  Bainbridge, NY 
> 1:55pm edt 12/1/99
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
> >Reply-To: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
> >To: "'Carl Dreher'" <focusrsh@arn.net>
> >CC: "land-speed@autox.team.net"
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:44:40 -0800
> >
> >----------
> >From:  Carl Dreher[SMTP:focusrsh@arn.net]
> >Sent:  Friday, November 12, 1999 7:48 PM
> >Cc:  land-speed@autox.team.net
> >Subject:  Re: Electronics vs. old way
> >
> >        I've been wandering if the day isn't
> coming  when  the supercharged 
> >classes are going to be dominated  by the 
> electronics managed tubocharged 
> >motors and us guys who just don't want to go
> their  are racing  amongst 
> >ourselves.  I watch cars like Krugels  CBG/Alt
>  put the record where  AA 
> >cars dream of going.  It would appear that if
> you have the money and the 
> >inkling to  use electronics to manage a tubo'd
> motor it is possible to pull 
> >hundreds more HP  than  you can with
> mechanical means.  I guess I wander if 
> >one day the records will be split between
> electronics managed motors and 
> >non. Kind of give us our own XO classes, maybe
> NE class (no electronics)  
> >or will we just  kind of disappear from the
> scene??  I admit I'm stuck in 
> >the 60s but I like old cars and the way they
> were made to run back then and 
> >besides  I will also feel great if I can get
> my Hilborn to work properly.  
> >Anybody else feel the same way? I know that
> either way you do it, It is a 
> >great challenge  with sat!
> >isfying results  and electronics  is here and
> now and the future, I just 
> >feel  its two different ball games, maybe its
> okay if  we go the way of 
> >Vintage racing  someday.  I've been crewing on
> Bob Ragsdales 53 stude 
> >CBG/alt for the last few years which he has
> really worked to get the record 
> >in the class. In l996 we qualified on an open
> record just in front of  
> >David Parks  tubocarged  early Camaro, we
> broke and he set the record at 
> >225, fought on for a couple of years and along
> comes Krugals awesome car  
> >which puts the record where no Studebaker is
> likely to ever go. So  its to 
> >D class last year and along comes John Rain
> who sets the record at 
> >something like 247, about dreamable max for
> Bobs car with its now near 
> >state of the art dialed in  injected,
> intercooled 671 supercharged chev 
> >with electronic surveillance. So off to
> another class hopping some  super 
> >sleek  tubo'd car doesn't get to the line
> before he has a chance.  I hate 
> >to see cars like this disappear  like the
> flathea!
> >ds  and GMC six cars almost did.  Keep an eye
> on the situation in
> >of us can get suggestion forms at the timing
> stand and take action to keep 
> >this style of doing things alive.  Regards
> Kvach in N.Idaho
> >
> >
> 
> 


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