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Re: Muroc

To: "DOUG ODOM" <popms@thegrid.net>, "Joe Timney" <joetimney@dol.net>
Subject: Re: Muroc
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:12:41 -0600
I was kinda shocked that Chuck Salmen said he wouldn't go back there because
of the trouble with cleaning up after he got home... This from a Guy who
hangs out at Bonneville.....  Isn't there some kind of cleaning solution
that would tackle the thing....

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
To: Joe Timney <joetimney@dol.net>
Cc: LAND-SPEED <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Muroc


> Joe, I have a open car so I just cut the windscreen low enough to see
> over it. (KISS) I don't take the enclosed trailer to Muroc or El Mirage
> just because it's so much trouble to clean the dust out. Air and even
> brooms don't work. You have to use a damp rag or mop and wipe it off.
> Water hose by it's self won't work. If you can just keep the air moving
> it seems to work best.
> Hope that's some help
> Doug in big ditch
>
> Joe Timney wrote:
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > You mentioned that the dust clings to everything...If you have Lexan
windshield,
> > has anyone tried to use some type of anti-stat spray cleaner to minimize
the
> > build-up?
> >
> > joe from very cold Delaware
> >
> > DOUG ODOM wrote:
> >
> > > John; You have full windshield I believe. If so you can vent some air
> > > from the base of the windshield (like a defroster). First you might
want
> > > to try this. Tape a couple of small pieces of yarn to the inside of
your
> > > windshield and see if you have dead air on the inside. The darn stuff
is
> > > like talc powder and just clings to everything.Another trick is to
> > > Velcro to the back of one of your gloves something like a powder puff
if
> > > your visor likes to dust up.
> > >         What size throttle body did you try? I'm still trying to
figure out
> > > what I'm going to need.
> > >                         Doug Odom by the pacific ocean
> > >
> > > John Beckett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > We run a 23 deg set up, guess combustion takes longer than with the
18
> > > > degree heads. Anyway we found a nice Weiand tunnel ram base that is
perfect
> > > > for our EFI system. Not to happy with the adapter plate I made for
the
> > > > throttle bodies, but will be using a different top this year and
> > > > considerably larger TB's as well.
> > > >
> > > > The price sure seems right on the SFS injection. I couldn't find if
they
> > > > have data logging or not, which I really like.
> > > >
> > > > John Beckett, ECTA/BNI #79
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
> > > > To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Your car
> > > >
> > > > >John, Sorry to take so long between notes. Very busy!! My friends
that
> > > > >run 18* chevys told me they had the best hp with only about 30*
timing.
> > > > >So that is where we started. After the first run and we were over
200mph
> > > > >I was not going to take a chance of messing up till I can dyno it
and
> > > > >find what it really likes. What intake did you use or make for your
> > > > >injection? I'm going to make one like a sheet metal type. The efi
I'm
> > > > >working with is from SDS. You can look at sdsefi.com and see what
they
> > > > >have. There is a lot of information on that site and you can down
load
> > > > >the whole thing. I hope to get this done for Muroc, but if not
I'll run
> > > > >my old carb. The record for E/ms is real low.
> > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > > >John Beckett wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     Doug
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     We weren't very conservative with our tune-up 42 deg. timing,
etc.
> > > > Had a
> > > > >> good cam but still felt down on HP. Finally realized the air flow
to the
> > > > EFI
> > > > >> was insufficient...just part of the learning curve of a new EFI
> > > > >> system...best run was 205 MPH. As a last ditch effort to
understand what
> > > > was
> > > > >> going on we bolted on a 1000 cfm Holley and ran the 213 MPH. Had
a push
> > > > rod
> > > > >> and rocker part company, above 8,000 RPM, on the return run and
managed a
> > > > >> 201 on seven cylinders.
> > > > >>     So we know the potential is there, just have to get
everything to
> > > > work
> > > > >> as designed. Have made some major changes to the EFI manifold to
improve
> > > > the
> > > > >> air flow, also the valve train will be replaced for more durable
pieces.
> > > > At
> > > > >> that point I believe we can run a 225 MPH.
> > > > >>     Your car being 1,000 lbs. lighter might pick up another 3 to
5 MPH
> > > > above
> > > > >> mine.
> > > > >>     What type of EFI are you going to run this year?
> > > > >>     Talk to Mayf about the NACA duct, sizing, etc. he has a bunch
of Aero
> > > > >> experience. Mine was extremely successful. Will use two more when
we
> > > > switch
> > > > >> to turbo's.
> > > > >>     Will you be going to Muroc in June?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     John Beckett, Asheville, NC
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
> > > > >> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > >> Cc: LAND-SPEED <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > >> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 12:27 AM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Your car
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >John, I didn't build the car with any weight in mind, so after I
got it
> > > > >> >done I weighed it. Between 500 and 550 each wheel. For now just
going to
> > > > >> >run the E motor. I'm going to build a fuel injection (efi) to
try and
> > > > >> >reduce the drag. The motor was just finished the day before we
left for
> > > > >> >B-ville. Was conservitive with the tune up 30* timing and 30 yr.
old
> > > > >> >carb.
> > > > >> > Doug Odom in Arroyo Grande, Ca.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >John Beckett wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>     Doug
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>     I get confused during the chat's too. Everything happening
so
> > > > fast. I
> > > > >> >> don't type fast either. And some times answers don't come when
you
> > > > >> expect.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>     Wanted to ask you more about your beautiful little E/MS.
Can't
> > > > >> believe
> > > > >> >> you get by with only 2100 lbs.. wow. Would think that would
allow for
> > > > >> some
> > > > >> >> rapid acceleration if it hooks up. On our best run with the
E/GCC we
> > > > went
> > > > >> >> through the 1/4 at 192 MPH and finished the five at 213 MPH.
What size
> > > > >> >> engine and fuel injection (mechanical or EFI) are you going to
use
> > > > this
> > > > >> >> year?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>     John Beckett,
> > > > >> >>     West, NC
>


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