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Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm

To: Wester S Potter <wspotter@jps.net>
Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:29:21 -0600
Yes, concurrence on that, beware of Jacobs,  lots of hot air.  There is a
GURU developing electronic components for racing at Schnitz racing, which is
largely a motorcycle performance industry leader, but much of his new magic
boxes can be used on anything, like the Schnitz progressive nitrous/ignition
controllers, they are truly impressive, thought about having Jon have the
"guru" on the chat for discussion.
They have nitrous progressive controllers, or ignition/nitrous controllers,
drag racers used to require 5-6 different little black boxes, and integrate
them together, alot of wiring, and alot of space needed, and alot of phone
calls to different companies to figure out difficulties,  they have boxes
with everything in one little box about 4" by 4" 1" thick, that progressively
brings in the nitrous as YOU program it to, ramps the ignition curve normally
aspirated as you program it, then progressively retards the ignition as you
program it while the nitrous is being brought up, with auto shifter
functions, rev limiters, digital outputs for recorders, multi progressive
stages if needed (can run 2 progressive systems from same box, no extra
charge), and more!!!!, the ignition component is 30% stronger than the best
MSD had for bikes, and the progressive nitous controller is so damn good that
NOS themselves got in on the action and actually paint it black with there
name on it and market it with there other progressive controllers  (which did
not work for me), everything about the box is, top notch, the housing is CNC
machined billet aluminum, no relays and junk, and when I needed slight
alterations to the programming for my desires, I just send the "chip" to them
and he can reprogram accordingly!!!  Much digitally programmable by you, no
modules and rpm chips and such to buy.

You can see some info by going to
http://www.schnitzracing.com/shoppingcart/bindex.htm   then click on "Racing
Electronics"   then click on  "Visit Schnitz Electronic website, CLICK
HERE!"     then scroll down and click on

                                 "Click here for more information!"

Joe :) :)



Wester S Potter wrote:

> If Jacobs stands behind their product and ships as accurately for their
> nitrous controller as they did with my ignition system you have problems.
> Wes
> ----------
> > From: "Bill Bennett" <benettw@earthlink.net>
> > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>,"John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>,<land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> > Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:07:01 -0400
> >
> >Glad you jogged my brain again here, was looking at some ignition
> >stuff today and came across a progressive nitrous controller based on
> >rpm instead of time. It also had some built safety features such as
> >fuel pressure loss and a rpm limiter, know you already have one, and a
> >shift light. They claim theirs doesn't have the on off surge problem
> >the time based system has.Check this out and talk to your motor guru:
> >http://www.jacobselectronics.com/index.htm. Their website is kinda
> >screwed up right now maybe they need Jon's help, but I figured you
> >could call them and they could tell you more about it. I guess you are
> >going with one of the single stage systems that uses jets so you can
> >start at 50 hp and get greedy from there.
> >
> >BillB
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> >To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> ><land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:27 PM
> >Subject: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> >
> >
> >> We were supposed to get some Complimentary stuff from a Very popular
> >company
> >> as a result of the Hot Rod Deal.... well that whole Package set up
> >fell
> >> through yesterday... Bummer it was a 2k system..... so we are now
> >looking at
> >> other options.... Think I got it all nailed down today....
> >>
> >>  Talked to my Engine Management specialist... ( thanks for the free
> >consult
> >> Dave) and we are looking at a couple of options....He likes a single
> >Nitrous
> >> system brought in Early.... just after Peak torque....Starting with
> >a 50hp
> >> kit and working up from there....  (ease of tuning Vs the Dual stage
> >> system )
> >>
> >> The C Motor was missing as a result of some fouled Plugs... nothing
> >more..
> >> we took the motor out and apart and it's finally not hurt.... Just
> >polishing
> >> the Crank and rolling a new set of bearings in and a couple of other
> >Machine
> >> shop operations....( lifter galley oil drain back restrictors) and
> >Blending
> >> the block where it meets the head to get rid of the shelf....
> >>
> >> Other then that we are opening up the rings a tick to handle the
> >Nitrous....
> >>
> >> Should be on the Dyno within the next two weeks.... I am like you
> >John....
> >> looking forward to seeing the real numbers....
> >>
> >> One of the other things that bothers us is the Fuel flow to the
> >system... so
> >> I am going to get a bigger Fuel Filter and get rid of the sexy lines
> >and go
> >> with FAT lines to the Carb... This might cure the top end lean out
> >> problem....
> >>
> >> Lots to do and NO TIME.... Perfect.. I love Pressure.... Keith
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> >> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7:55 PM
> >> Subject: Questions
> >>
> >>
> >> > Keith
> >> >
> >> > Have you sorted out the miss in the "C" motor when you were on the
> >Dyno?
> >> > When will you take it back for a full test at 7,000+ RPM. Have you
> >> received
> >> > your nitrous system yet? Anxious to hear what it does on the dyno.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> >> > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:59 PM
> >> > Subject: Air Ride Tech
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >     Well I have ordered some parts today to change the air ride
> >around a
> >> > > bit....
> >> > >
> >> > > up to this point the front and rear have been combined
> >systems.... in
> >> > other
> >> > > words I could only change the front bags or the rear as a
> >unit.... what
> >> I
> >> > > have coming is a single controller that I am going to put on the
> >Front
> >> > > system and I am going to seperate the two rear bags so that I
> >can Jack
> >> > > weight into the car left to right on the rear end....  Don't
> >really plan
> >> > on
> >> > > changing the basic set up much but I thought I would share the
> >Change...
> >> > >
> >> > > I am also still trying to figure out how to capture the
> >Pressures ....
> >> as
> >> > > the increase in pressure on the gage represents downforce on the
> >car...
> >> > >
> >> > > Keith ( ain't these little Post notes neat .... noticed Ole Dan
> >was
> >> > getting
> >> > > the hang of it)
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >




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