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Re: Nitrous....and controler

To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Nitrous....and controler
From: Tim Schoeny <tschoen@fuse.net>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 22:54:24 -0400
John,my deal has one of those too-only catch is your injectors have to be big
enough to pass the extra fuel when you hit the nitros.Beeeeeee careful.Does your
O2 work ok with leaded gas?mine seems to clog up pretty quick.
                                                          Tim Schoeny

John Beckett wrote:

>     Playing with the tune-up on my EFI system the other day...distributor
> BS... and discovered a page in the computer on Nitrous. Light goes on in the
> dark reaches of my empty head...I'd like to run in the fuel classes too.
> This feature has always been there just to busy to pay attention. OK, so I
> opened it up and found some neat stuff. Apparently I can run a dry
> system...meaning I can add all the fuel required through the injectors,
> without special pumps regulators lines filters etc....and run the Nitrous
> direct to the manifold. It's also a two stage system, adjustable delay
> between stages, RPM sensitive, TPS on & off, has it's own fuel map, and it's
> still controlled by the O2 sensor at a predetermined A/F ratio as rich as 10
> to 1.
>     Wow, I need to pay more attention when I buy stuff. If I don't get the
> turbo system up and running soon maybe I can at least try some N2O.
>
> John Beckett, LSR #79
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; "John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
>
> > Nitrous Research has been going on like Mad around here....
> >
> > Seems there are a Bazillion systems to chose from and a Hundred ways to
> set
> > it up and run it... I am sure that Most work...
> >
> > We are using the Nitrous to Aid the Motor in getting to the right RPM in
> 3rd
> > gear and then we are going to spray all of forth gear. ... This is our
> basic
> > thoughts on the subject.... This whole Kit isn't going to be capable of
> more
> > then 300hp... we currently don't have the Blocks that will stand it.....
> our
> > thoughts up front are to actually use less then 150 hp kit.... Just a bit
> of
> > a boost to an already strong Motor...
> >
> > K
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; John Beckett
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 8:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> >
> >
> > > Hey Keith, when running nitrous, are you hitting
> > > the button as soon as you start rolling like drag
> > > cars, or are you just going to use it once in
> > > high gear?  I'm pretty well set that I'm going to
> > > use nitrous on the little Dodge hemi, but my plan
> > > is to get through the gears in the first quarter
> > > mile or so, then hit the button in high gear
> > > only.
> > >
> > > Dick J
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net> wrote:
> > > > Don't think the 200mph pass will happen in June
> > > > at Maxton.... but maybe
> > > > better then we have done before... looking for
> > > > High 180's.... on the
> > > > smallest hp Nitrous system we can run just to
> > > > Prove the system.... Most
> > > > likely a 4th gear only Pass... It's Just to
> > > > close to Muroc to hurt it....
> > > >
> > > > We are talking going back to the C Motor for
> > > > Both the Sept and Oct Meets and
> > > > Running up the Hp on the Nitrous till it gets
> > > > there or runs over the Crank.
> > > > Basically Trying to get Brad into the Two Club
> > > > with the ECTA....
> > > >
> > > > This of course is assuming that I don't run
> > > > over the Crank at Muroc!
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: John Beckett
> > > > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>;
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:30 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 200 MPH on nitrous???
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > > To: "John Beckett"
> > > > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> > > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We are coming to Maxton before Muroc....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hoping to test the motor just Prior to
> > > > Maxton....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > K
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: John Beckett
> > > > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > > > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>;
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:45 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To bad you cant try it out at Maxton
> > > > before you head to Muroc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JB
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > > > > To: "John Beckett"
> > > > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> > > > > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:27 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: C motor and Nitrous....Hmmm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We were supposed to get some
> > > > Complimentary stuff from a Very popular
> > > > > > > company
> > > > > > > > as a result of the Hot Rod Deal....
> > > > well that whole Package set up
> > > > > fell
> > > > > > > > through yesterday... Bummer it was a 2k
> > > > system..... so we are now
> > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > other options.... Think I got it all
> > > > nailed down today....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  Talked to my Engine Management
> > > > specialist... ( thanks for the free
> > > > > > > consult
> > > > > > > > Dave) and we are looking at a couple of
> > > > options....He likes a single
> > > > > > > Nitrous
> > > > > > > > system brought in Early.... just after
> > > > Peak torque....Starting with
> > > > a
> > > > > > 50hp
> > > > > > > > kit and working up from there....
> > > > (ease of tuning Vs the Dual stage
> > > > > > > > system )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The C Motor was missing as a result of
> > > > some fouled Plugs... nothing
> > > > > > more..
> > > > > > > > we took the motor out and apart and
> > > > it's finally not hurt.... Just
> > > > > > > polishing
> > > > > > > > the Crank and rolling a new set of
> > > > bearings in and a couple of other
> > > > > > > Machine
> > > > > > > > shop operations....( lifter galley oil
> > > > drain back restrictors) and
> > > > > > > Blending
> > > > > > > > the block where it meets the head to
> > > > get rid of the shelf....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Other then that we are opening up the
> > > > rings a tick to handle the
> > > > > > > Nitrous....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should be on the Dyno within the next
> > > > two weeks.... I am like you
> > > > > > John....
> > > > > > > > looking forward to seeing the real
> > > > numbers....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One of the other things that bothers us
> > > > is the Fuel flow to the
> > > > > > system...
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > I am going to get a bigger Fuel Filter
> > > > and get rid of the sexy lines
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > with FAT lines to the Carb... This
> > > > might cure the top end lean out
> > > > > > > > problem....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lots to do and NO TIME.... Perfect.. I
> > > > love Pressure.... Keith
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: John Beckett
> > > > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > > > > > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>;
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7:55 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Questions
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you sorted out the miss in the
> > > > "C" motor when you were on the
> > > > > > Dyno?
> > > > > > > > > When will you take it back for a full
> > > > test at 7,000+ RPM. Have you
> > > > > > > > received
> > > > > > > > > your nitrous system yet? Anxious to
> > > > hear what it does on the dyno.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > > > > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Air Ride Tech
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >     Well I have ordered some parts
> > > > today to change the air ride
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > bit....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > up to this point the front and rear
> > > > have been combined
> > > > systems....
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > words I could only change the front
> > > > bags or the rear as a
> > > > unit....
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > have coming is a single controller
> > > > that I am going to put on the
> > > > > > Front
> > > > > > > > > > system and I am going to seperate
> > > > the two rear bags so that I
> > > > can
> > > > > > Jack
> > > > > > > > > > weight into the car left to right
> > > > on the rear end....  Don't
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > plan
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > changing the basic set up much but
> > > > I thought I would share the
> > > > > > > Change...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am also still trying to figure
> > > > out how to capture the
> > > > Pressures
> > > > > > ....
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > the increase in pressure on the
> > > > gage represents downforce on the
> > > > > > > car...
> > > >
> > > === message truncated ===
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > .............................
> > > ..........Dick J.............
> > > ......(In East Texas)........
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