Hey come to think about it I got an ad stuck on my fridge telling all about
that one.....
....and It's stuck to the fridge with ?
you guessed it: a magnet! :-)
we'll be back with the info tamarra' ....stay tuned!
Dirty Doug in New Yawk.
From: "Readio, Skip" <Skip.Readio@compaq.com>
To: Doug Anderson <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>, 'Peter Carpenter'
<Peter.Carpenter@tmca.com.au>
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Subject: RE: Big Magnet in Drain Plug -a sticky subject!
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:31:15 -0500
You can already buy magnets for spin-on filters. I didn't bother to make
the effort to remember who and where because I wasn't interested in running
one. I change my oil before it gets too dirty so they wouldn't be doing
much, I figure. No metal, no need.
Regards,
Skip Readio
CompaQ Services Division
Global Supply Operations Americas
165 Dascomb Road
Andover, MA 01810-5897
Phone - 978-474-2574
Mail - skip.readio@compaq.com
> ----------
> From: Peter Carpenter[SMTP:Peter.Carpenter@tmca.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:32 PM
> To: Doug Anderson
> Cc: ardunbill@webtv.net; land-speed@autox.team.net; cbailey@sprise.com;
> av8ford@volcano.net; pbozzo@yalesecurity.com; chopt32@aol.com;
> tinshed@ozemail.com.au; whodaky@sympac.com.au; pyramid62@aol.com;
> je832@aol.com; hastingsv@aol.com; weldit@digisys.net; robere@xensei.com;
> jungbec@aol.com; v8ford@mail.neca.com; fah60@aol.com; Readio, Skip;
> drichard@stny.rr.com; lsaltsman@telenet.net; neatoldstuff@webtv.com;
> squarerollbars@yahoo.com; Want1937hd@aol.com; joetimney@dol.net;
> pvincent@poci.amis.com; kch@digisys.net; radbruch@micron.net;
> saltsix@earthlink.net; SPLHAUGINC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Big Magnet in Drain Plug -a sticky subject!
>
> Why not have the magnet attached to the oil filter.
>
> OK so you've maybe got one of them neat old fashioned type beehive
> numbers.
>
> So why not hot rod it and make one of the neat new little full flow screw
> on
> filters fit inside it?
>
> Just thinkin out loud here, but it wouldn't be too hard to fit the
adapter
> inside the beehive and someone handy with a hunk of aloomineeyum ana mill
> or
> whatever should be able to devise sumpin that looks invisible from the
> outside.
>
> And before ya hit me with that "I don't like the idea of those little
> dinky
> canisters coz they can't possibly filter as much oil as I have.." I'd
> suggest
> you take a closer look at one. The filter paper is folded in such a way
> that
> they actually have a lot more filtration surface area than the old style
> larger
> units. The magnet attached to the outside should hold the oil on the
> inlet side
> of the filter and in theory lower the likelihood of the filter element
> becoming
> clogged. With the magnet on the filter, the crud is disposed of with
> every
> filter change so no problem worrying about build up in the pan or magnets
> coming
> loose etc. On filters, it's a good idea to remember that there's a few
> things
> to consider. Most OEM units are designed to maintain a specific
pressure.
> They
> use a bypass valve so that when the pressure differential varies to a
> predetermined level on the inlet and outlet side the by pass opens to
> ensure
> flow of oil. Better the have dirty oil in there than no oil at all.
> Likewise
> some filters advertise that they can filter out particles down to the
most
> minute size. These too can affect oil flow and pressure. there are
> different
> methods used to help the filter work. One example is the needle punched
> element that passes larger particles thru the holes (maintaining flow)
> whilst
> collecting the more minute bits on the loos strands caused by the method
> of
> punching the holes (sorta like the little bits of cotton you get on the
> edge
> when you rip a polishing cloth from that bedsheet or diaper. Some
> elements are
> made from paper some from cotton some from a combination of natural and
> synthetic fabrics. The trick is to know what you are buying and don't
> scrimp.
> I've often said there's a good reason for most things being cheaper than
> others.
> It's usually to do with the process being short cut to reduce
> manufacturing cost
> or the materials used are minimised or otherwise compromised for the same
> effect.
>
> Heck if there's any enterprising manufacturers out there maybe there's a
> market
> for a remote spin on filter that incorporates a magnet and looks like a
> good old
> fashioned beehive.
>
> I'm a long way from my scanner at present so maybe when I get home I can
> ketch
> up what's in my head so ya'all can see what I'm on about.
>
> Regards
> Carps
>
>
>
>
>
> "Doug Anderson" <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com> on 12/13/2000 09:19:09 AM
>
> To: ardunbill@webtv.net, land-speed@autox.team.net
> cc: cbailey@sprise.com, av8ford@volcano.net, pbozzo@yalesecurity.com,
> chopt32@aol.com, tinshed@ozemail.com.au, whodaky@sympac.com.au,
> pyramid62@aol.com, je832@aol.com, hastingsv@aol.com,
> weldit@digisys.net,
> robere@xensei.com, jungbec@aol.com, v8ford@mail.neca.com,
> fah60@aol.com,
> skip.readio@compaq.com, drichard@stny.rr.com,
lsaltsman@telenet.net,
> neatoldstuff@webtv.com, squarerollbars@yahoo.com,
> Want1937hd@aol.com,
> joetimney@dol.net, pvincent@poci.amis.com, kch@digisys.net,
> radbruch@micron.net, saltsix@earthlink.net, SPLHAUGINC@aol.com
(bcc:
> Peter
> Carpenter/PTMVRO/TMCA)
> Subject: Re: Big Magnet in Drain Plug -a sticky subject!
>
>
>
> Bill! put a big ( 4" x 1/4" thick???) donut shaped one ....on the
> bottom
> (!) of the pan.... -and,.... leave it there!
>
> -thats right on the OUTSIDE! -oooooh, what a concept.
>
> That way its not INSIDE to come loose and rattle off yer nice 'spensive
> rods
> and such..... whats ever'one else think ? I've never done it myself,
> though I've thought of it often. I see no reason why it won't collect and
> trap any magnetic (ferrous) particles forever (well, at least till ya
> tear'er down that is...)
>
> Hope this sows some seeds of thought....
>
> Dirty Doug in New Yawk -Brrrrrr, its windy cold outside.
>
>
>
>
> From: ardunbill@webtv.net
> Reply-To: ardunbill@webtv.net
> To: bigsid@webtv.net, bk185@lafn.org (marco), bjgayle@aol.com,
> LITNMAN@aol.com, land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Big Magnet in Drain Plug
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:09:59 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi Folks, working along on my Ardun, and it occurred to me that I might
> do some Good by putting a powerful magnet in the drain plug on the oil
> pan, while I have a chance. Such magnets are available from Reid and
> others. I note that GM has one on my four-speed drain plug, and Ford
> has one on my 9" axle drain plug.
>
> I have observed that when you start up a fresh engine a lot of cast iron
> dust shows up in the oil (which should of course be dumped promptly)
> from, I imagine, mainly the cylinder bores. Normally this has to go
> through and polish up your oil pump, even if you have a full flow
> filter, which I don't. And, a ton of it lies in the pan, regardless of
> changing your oil. So maybe a really strong magnet in the drainplug
> might just grab all this and hold it.
>
> Anybody see anything wrong with this logic, assuming one can really
> secure the magnet to the drain plug, so it doesn't decide to jump up on
> the crank and then get slung through the side of the block at high revs?
> Or jammed in a tight spot. Cheers, Ardun Bill
>
>
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