Well just my two cents worth, I work around and with farm machinery,
takes a beating as you can well imagine. For years I have been fixing
pretty welds that break, no doubt made with TIGS and Migs. My feeling is
that it is all to easy to make nice looking welds with these things that are
not strong, little actual penetration into the base structure. I'm sure
they can be structurally sound if properly done, I just don't trust the
welds on anything structural. So You guessed it my frame and roll cage is
don with ugly old stick welding and I feel a ton safer with it. Am I alone
in this ? Kvach
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; John Linville <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>;
<FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <ardunbill@webtv.net>; <DaCudaKid@aol.com>;
<bigsid@webtv.net>; <bk185@lafn.org>; <BJGAYLE@aol.com>; <LITNMAN@aol.com>;
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Welding skills
> We kinda brought up welding skills last night.... I was sitting there
> looking at something I tig welded the other day...
>
> I was kinda amazed I had welded it... very nice looking weld.... but it
was
> the last of many on the same thing.... shoot give anyone of us enough
> Practice and we can learn to do anything....
>
> Joe Timney had said something about only using a Tig welder and not even
> owning a Wire feed box..... In my case I loaned my Mig to the Rock
business
> and just haven't got around to taking it home.... so everything I have
> welded lately has been Tig work... I am beginning to see why Joe likes
> this thing so much....
>
> on the other side of the fence.... I saw a new LSR car the other night
that
> was put together with a Stick welder.... man there was nothing pretty
about
> that.... It was welded.. and the welds were GOOD.... but wow it was ugly.
>
> Just a side light on a Boring day..... K
> ----------
> > From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > To: John Linville <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>; FastmetalBDF@aol.com;
> ardunbill@webtv.net; DaCudaKid@aol.com; bigsid@webtv.net; bk185@lafn.org;
> BJGAYLE@aol.com; LITNMAN@aol.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Arduns Big and Little
> > Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:17 AM
> >
> > I got to see a tin sided V-8 60 when I visited
> > Phil Landry's house with Gary Ferstl last summer.
> > They had one sitting in the driveway and I got
> > to take a good look at it. The most awsome thing
> > about this little motor is the welding which
> > holds the tin sides to the cast block. The welds
> > are so perfect that they look like a long zipper.
> > When I think of the equipment and technology
> > that was available to do that welding back in the
> > thirties, I recognize that the welding is a great
> > tribute to the man who did it. He was a true
> > artist!
> >
> > Dick J
> > --- John Linville <bellytk@nh.ultranet.com>
> > wrote:
> > > surprised no one has brought up (or I missed
> > > it) that fact that V8-60s came
> > > in two flavors, regular cast iron block and
> > > "tin sided" (furnace brazed I
> > > believe). Friend of mine here in NH has a tin
> > > sided motor. Would look neat
> > > with the sides all polished up and some Eddie
> > > Meyer goodies. Stuff still
> > > turns up. My racing partner was at home last
> > > year and a guy showed up,
> > > wanted to sell a 24 stud 3x2 intake, a pair of
> > > early 24 stud heads, a pair
> > > of Eddie Meyer V8-60 heads and a knock off 2x2
> > > V8-60 intake, just like Eddie
> > > Meyers but with no name on it. Guy took $50
> > > for all the stuff and was happy
> > > as a clam. Ya never know. Then theres Ronnie
> > > Roadster down in Connecticut
> > > who has a V8-60, probably a marine motor, with
> > > four one barrel carburetors
> > > and a rack type carb linkage. He bought it at
> > > a yard sale in his local
> > > area. Or Ronnie's second Ardun that he found
> > > in Syracuse. Seems he was at
> > > York, PA NSRA meet with his Ardun deuce
> > > roadster and someone commented he
> > > thought there was one of "those" engines in the
> > > Pennysaver want ads in his
> > > home town. Sure enough in the Syracuse, NY
> > > pennysaver there was an ad for a
> > > "ford hemi". Was probably a stock car motor
> > > from central NY. Had all the
> > > racing Ardun goodies like C&T rocker shaft
> > > supports, etc.
> > >
> > > John in NH where the sun came out today and
> > >
> > > the 18" of snow started melting on the roof
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: FastmetalBDF@aol.com
> > > <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>
> > > To: ardunbill@webtv.net <ardunbill@webtv.net>;
> > > DaCudaKid@aol.com
> > > <DaCudaKid@aol.com>; bigsid@webtv.net
> > > <bigsid@webtv.net>; bk185@lafn.org
> > > <bk185@lafn.org>; BJGAYLE@aol.com
> > > <BJGAYLE@aol.com>; LITNMAN@aol.com
> > > <LITNMAN@aol.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Arduns Big and Little
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bill, thanks for all the good
> > > specifications you sent along . These
> > > >V8 60s only came in the passenger cars and
> > > some panel trucks,
> > > >surprisingly enough . I do not know if any of
> > > the panel trucks had the
> > > >round tubular style front axles that replaced
> > > the I - beam type axle in
> > > >most, if not all, of the passenger cars with
> > > the V8 60 motor .
> > > > My second car, bought in 1954, was a
> > > shiny black ' 39 Standard
> > > >coupe with the " little brother " 60 motor and
> > > tube axle .
> > > > These axles were often seen in hot rods
> > > of the fifties as they looked
> > > >great when chromed ...... all I know is I have
> > > often wished I still owned
> > > >that little jewel, but I do have one excellent
> > > condition complete V8 60,
> > > >and a spare short block with a thrown rod
> > > jammed in it which is in real
> > > >tough shape .
> > > > I got the block in trade for two rough
> > > doors from a ' 28 coupe that
> > > >also was a basket case ...... a fair swap, I
> > > guess .
> > > > Bruce, trying to remember if west coast
> > > pioneer rodder Ray Brown
> > > >ever ran those rare little Ardun heads on any
> > > of his lakes cars .......
> > > > I seem to recall Jerauld's Automotive in
> > > San Diego ran a bellytank
> > > >or roadster with a V8 60 waaaay back in the
> > > days of Paradise Mesa
> > > >drag strip . Longtime Bonneville salt rat
> > > Carroll " Redeye " Gentry,
> > > >in his 70s and still on the crew of a fuel
> > > modified roadster, told me
> > > >at Speedweek that Jerauld's was still in
> > > business in the San Diego
> > > >area ...... for fifty years or more now !
> > > > Bruce on the same cold coast as
> > you
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