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Re: Electric Bikes

To: "Malcolm Pittwood" <MPittwood@compuserve.com>,
Subject: Re: Electric Bikes
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 07:51:29 -0600
I did send Malcom a note that I am about the only wierdo that calls a
Motorcycle a scooter.... Picked it up somewhere as a kid...

in any case if we are building a new set of rules... why not conform rather
then non conform?

Keith ( first time I ever wanted to conform to anything )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Malcolm Pittwood" <MPittwood@compuserve.com>
To: "LSR List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:39 AM
Subject: Electric Bikes


> Keith and the list,
>
> I must be in a good mood today - couldn't even find something in purple to
> launch in Keith's direction after his ps on the FIA.  Keith got it right
> with 'Henry for the Committee' - a committee of one is the most
effective!!
>
> The FIM would be the only International body to be concerned with
> 'scooters' and ALL of their records are World Records.  (The FIA would
have
> no part in the 2 wheeled world).
>
> The electric bike rules in the FIM do not allow for changes in batteries,
> just recharging after each run.  As you have 2 hours in which to complete
> an attempt (but few parts can be changed), that should not be a problem.
> Was not aware of the upper limit on weight until I checked the UK rule
book
> - A1 - 250kg, A2 - 500kg and A3 750kg.  With modern materials a 750kg
(1650
> lb) all up weight should still pack a lot of batteries and speed
> potential!!
>
> When I worked with the electric Blubird car here in the UK the weight was
> checked at the venue using certified 'corner weight' cerytified electronic
> scales - another cost for the team to pay.  This was to ensure that we
> would not enter an over 1000kg car in the 500 to 1000kg class.   Why
should
> weight check be a problem?  When the turbine and electric cars are
> scrutineered (inspected) at Bonneville they present their own weight
> 'ticket'.
>
> If there are any FIM rules that require clarification I found the
Technical
> Commission people were prepared to listen in 1998/9, when Richard Brown
and
> I got acceptance of the rockets and the towing of streamliners in revised
> rules adopted by August 1999.
>
> The UK electric record for 'scooters' is 89.95 mph in J A1 (two way
> average, 1 hour turn around).
> The FIM fastest is I think 115.266 mph in J A2.  With A1 at 102.214 mph
(2
> way, 2 hour)
>
> Henry - I would suggest eventually that you build an FIM streamliner, as
> you can tow to a stable speed, which for an electric bike would save some
> of the battery energy allowing for a faster run.  (Just my idea based on
> the rules available).  Good speed with whatever you build and get accepted
> by SCTA.
>
> Malcolm Pittwood, Derby England  (where the sun is shining).
> Member of Team Maximum Impulse - Rocket Bike - Fastest Speed on two
wheels,
> Bonneville 1999 333mph (kilo).

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