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Re: Engine Rules

To: kturk@ala.net, tjn56@swbell.net, LGMCAFEE@aol.com,
Subject: Re: Engine Rules
From: Bill Smith <WmTSmith@landracing.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:52:57 -0700 (MST)
KT & group, 
I also enjoy the exploring of ideas---The one pressing my pea brain is-- what 
constitutes "multiple engines" vs "an engine under General Competition 
requirements? 
wmts


---- Original Message ----
From:           Keith Turk
Date:           Sun 2/3/02 15:46
To:             Tom Neimeyer, LGMCAFEE@aol.com, land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: under pressure

You know this whole thread most likely has Zero merit.... But I love the
concept of thinking this far outside of the box.  Why not use this forum to
toss out your idea's and see what others think.... that is why we are
hanging out here anyway....

K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Neimeyer" <tjn56@swbell.net>
To: <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: under pressure


> Gary & Larry,
>   I had talked to a few other racers about this and was told that it is
> impossible to carry enough air (at least for LSR type vehicles).  Take
your
> favorite engine and figure volume at max RPM then multiply by time under
> power.  This turns out to be an incredible amount of air.  Another problem
> is the pressure in the tank is dropping as your need for air increases (to
> increase speed), at some point it will cause air supply problems.
>
> Another perspective is gained when thinking about people that run NOS.
They
> are pulling in all the air (atmosphere) them can and still use a
significant
> amount of NOS.  If they didn't have the air, imagine how much NOS they
would
> use.  Using pure oxygen or NOS going into an engine is a great recipe for
> meltdown.  Flame front temperatures would be out of this world.  Also
safety
> would be a big concern with large volumes of pure oxygen or NOS.
>
> Just some thoughts,
> Regards, Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <LGMCAFEE@aol.com>
> To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: under pressure
>
>
> > In a message dated 2/2/02 10:32:18 PM Central Standard Time,
> > lsr350@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > <<Hoping you or others can  clarify
> >  these uncertainties before I progress any further ? has anyone else on
> the
> >  list tried or experemented with compressed air
> >  Gary always thinking outside the square for an edgeGet more from the
Web.
> >  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
> >   >>
> > Gary I don't know anything thing about this subject but I was at the Don
> > Garlits drag racing museum this summer and Garlits had an older dragster
> on
> > display with a large tank of compressed air or oxygen, I don't remember
> which
> > mounted in the car. This tank was about 10 feet long and about 18inches
in
> > dia. a big tank just for a1/4 mile. This went right in the blower with
no
> > outside air just tank air. The sign said they gave up on it after
testing
> it
> > several times but I thought it was interesting concept at that time.
Larry
> > Mac

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