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Re: [Land-speed] Alky Burner and formula Holden ignition

To: "Bryan Savage" <basavage@wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Alky Burner and formula Holden ignition
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:09:29 -0400
Thanks for the kind words I do what I do and try to be a straight shooter. 
Now I have a problem. I have a Buick engine out of a formulae Holden. It has 
a trigger wheel on the crank with two rings one has 18 teeth on the outer 
ring and the inner has 3. I need to buy an ignition module for the thing and 
need to know an application. Napa lists 5 different ones and other info is 
very sparse. BTW it has no cam sensor any help greatly appreciated. I need 
an application for a place like Napa I had them look up formula Holden to no 
avail..LOL
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Savage" <basavage@wildblue.net>
To: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Cc: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; <drmayf@mayfco.com>; "'James 
Tone'" <gmc6power@earthlink.net>; <neil@dbelltech.com>; "'LSR'" 
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Alky Burner


>
> List,
>
> Shure is nice to have a modern day Smokey on the list. We just got the 
> real story that
> would have cost big bucks.
>
> Thanks Dave!
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> Dave Dahlgren wrote:
>> I have never had an alky engine that needed more than a gasoline one 
>> ever... The octane of methanol is 102 most any racing gas is 108 to 118.. 
>> Well to be correct there is no octane numbers over 100 after that they 
>> are referred to as performance numbers. Did you try 32? If not why not 
>> LOL... On a dyno sheet always ask for both corrected and uncorrected HP 
>> and torque and write down on the sheet the weather conditions baro air 
>> temp and relative humidity. That way you can verify any corrected numbers 
>> are accurate. Better yet bring your own weather station and get those 
>> numbers yourself in the dyno cell seconds after the pull and close the 
>> door behind you on the way to help preserve the conditions in there. 
>> Usually I leave the baro sensor and air temp sensor in the cell and dash 
>> in to get RH.. That being said I only bother with this if it is a shop I 
>> have never worked with and am concerned about having a dyno that is 
>> either a bit 'fast' or 'slow'. A quick look will tell you if it is 
>> necessary or if the numbers don't make sense.
>>
>> Tell me about the cam for a 5 liter engine 605 is painfully light..on 
>> alky.. duration at 0.050 lobe separation lift rockers all that jazz. 
>> What size butterflies in the injector and assume 18 degree heads as they 
>> are very common. Compression ratio is of some concern as well and if this 
>> is proprietary just send them straight to me and not the list..
>>
>> Now if things are a bit dicey at speedweek and it is wednesday or later 
>> and you need a mph or two I would take the chance of adding a degree or 
>> two of advance because of the density altitude... But it is the last thin 
>> to try not the first..
>> Dave
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