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Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Lines

To: "'Rick Yacoucci'" <Turborick@Turborick.com>, "'Greg Meyers'"
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Lines
From: <neil@dbelltech.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:42:45 -0700
Rick; 

SS braided hose comes in two types-- a neoprene runner lined hose, generally
used for fuel hoses, etc and Teflon lined hose, generally used for high
pressure applications like brake lines.

The lifetime of each one depends on the temperature it is exposed to and for
how long. I have also experienced leaks from perfectly good looking SS
braided hose; it was because the neoprene liner had deteriorated and cracked
under the SS braid because the line had been routed too close to the
headers.

Teflon hose lasts for a long time unless it is exposed to very high
temperatures, then it too can become stiff and subject to cracking.

Keeping the hose away from heat sources can make a huge difference in hose
lifetime.

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ



-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Yacoucci
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:15 AM
To: 'Greg Meyers'; drmayf@mayfco.com; 'landSpeed List'
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Lines

About SS braided hose.... how often do you guys change it out? How do you
inspect it?
I have seen perfectly good looking SS hose leak.


Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Meyers
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:04 AM
To: drmayf@mayfco.com; 'land Speed List'
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Lines

We've been inspected six times now, and never had anyone comment on our fuel
line routing.  We used stainless braided fuel line inside a steel pipe which
ran along the floor of our 53' Stude inside, on the passenger side.  The
pipe was one solid piece, with open ends in the trunk and in front of the
firewall. My guess is that they  like to see extra metal covering fuel line
in the plane of the flywheel/clutch.
Greg
Salt2salt.com


On 9/25/09 10:33 AM, "drmayf" <drmayf@mayfco.com> wrote:

> I see that the rule book permits fuel lines to be run into the cockpit
> area (3.I) provided they are steel or steel braid covered. I guess Steel
> Braid covered means SS braided hose. Having fuel in the drivers
> compartment seems anathema to me, but for sure it can be an easier way
> to run fuel lines. I am curious as to how many teams out there run the
> fuel lines into the drivers compartment and what experiences they have
> had with that method (ie inspection and redesign suggestions from
> inspectors).  I am contemplating such a move. Why? Well, at WOS, I
> discovered a leaking fuel cell fitting up near the hot exhaust system
> feeding the turbo. I had put the fuel cell in front of the old radiator
> position to keep from having the fuel lines run into the drivers
> compartment or under the car when I had two old turbos in different
> locations that did not pose a heat threat to the fuel cell.  I am now
> fabricating a new fuel cell to fit in the cramped trunk area and running
> the fuel lines through the drivers compartment would be much easier to
> do.  
> 
> Comments? Thoughts?
> 
> mayf
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