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Stubborn Pinking problem, revisited

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Subject: Stubborn Pinking problem, revisited
From: "John M. Trindle" <jtrindle@tsquare.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
I'm still not convinced that my timing is where it could be, optimally.  
To recap, I seem to be able to set either:

Condition A) Timing is set to 5 degrees, car is sluggish off line, but no 
knocking or pinging.  Temperatur OK.

Condition B) Timing is set to 8 degrees, car is OK off line, but pings 
often above 3000 RPM in 3rd or 4th gears (light accelleration).  Pinging 
lessens or disappears during harder accelleration

Condition C) Timing set to 10 degrees, car is GOOD off line, pings like 
crazy during acceleration in 3rd or 4th gear.

When I am in Condition A) or B) (or right now, in between the two) I get 
plugs with darkish deposits around the outer ring, and whitish deposits 
on the electrode.  It's not these strange Champion Premium plugs either, 
since I got a white bullseye / black ring with the stock, recommended 
Champions as well.  If I rich the mixture beyond the current setting (1/2 
turn on HIFs richer than starting point) the idle becomes unmanageable, 
and the pinging doesn't go away.

After an extended drive at 20 mph (we have a single-lane touring road, 8 
miles long) the bullseye was brown.  I kept the RPMs between 2K and 3K 
the entire way.

My local expert says 1) Since it's a Kent 286 degree cam the timing won't 
be book anyway, and 2) he suspects a fuel delivery problem is causing the 
bullseye, and lean mixture at higher loads causes the pinging earlier 
than would be expected.

I've replaced the fuel filter.  The carbs were rebuilt in the last year 
and have worked OK since the rebuild (no bullseye).  The plugs in front 
and rear cylinders behave similarly.  The compression is even.

Any ideas?  My next steps appear to be a fuel pump and a distributor 
re-curved for this cam.  The local expert, who sells the distributor, 
says that won't help much.  The fuel pump is apparently a real SU, but 
does not shut off ever... it gets much quieter when the system is 
pressurized, but you can still hear it.

Thanks!

John M. Trindle | jtrindle@tsquare.com | Tidewater Sports Car Club
'73 MGB DSP     | '69 Spitfire E Stock | '88 RX-7 C Stock
Home Page:  http://www.widomaker.com/~trindle
"You are what you is. - Frank Zappa"


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