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Re: In my own defense/MG vs. others

To: mgs@autox.team.net, drded@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: In my own defense/MG vs. others
From: tom.w.wagner@Central.Sun.COM (Tom Wagner - Program Manager)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:04:22 -0600
To All:

I would like to actually meet David
as he has provided a lot of usefull
information to me in an effort to 
get my car working.  NY is a long
ways away for me in Houston, and
TOO COLD, but I would like to see
David come dwon to TEXAS rather
than staying in the East so much.

And I am sure folks like Wayne in Plano,
and others in Dallas, Austin would like
to meet him as well.

Just my $.02 worth, and David is worth
a lot more than that in technical advice.

Tom Wagner
67 MGB

> From mgs-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan  2 22:28 CST 1997
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:16:19 -0800
> From: drded@ix.netcom.com (David Deutsch)
> Subject: In my own defense/MG vs. others
> To: mgs@autox.team.net
> 
> Whoa Jack,
> I remember very well that late Saturday afternoon in Keane, N.H. not 
> Westminster, Vermont and my exact words were "Oh man! they invited 
> those uppity Triumphs back again this year?" and you replied "you must 
> be that David guy from N.Y." and we all got a good laugh as I remember 
> it. It was not adverserial, nasty or event meant to offend. It could 
> not have been taken as anything other than the sarcastic remark that it 
> was and would ask you to ask any of the dozen or so others that were 
> there to say any different. We continued talking at some length after 
> those initial remarks, looking under bonnets and admiring each other's 
> cars and I remember it as nothing less than plesant. I'm guessing you 
> and I grew up on real different play grounds. There are many on this 
> list who will tell you that I would give my shirt off my back to help 
> another British car enthusiast, even Triumph owners. I take offense to 
> your remarks the only attitude in that parking lot that day was yours. 
> Some one said earlier today that if you had a beef with some one take 
> it up in private. You have twisted the truth in an obvious attempt to
> assinate my character. I post this to the group only because you chose 
> to launch your attack publicly. My actions speak for themself and my 
> reputation is for the most part good. I would guess there are more 
> people saying "who's Jack and why is he attacking David" then there are 
> people agreeing with you right now. Take the chip off your shoulder and 
> play nice or go home. Safety Fast, David Deutsch           
> 
> You wrote: 
> >
> >My first in person meeting with David Deutsch occured last Oct. at
> >Westminster Vt.
> >By way of introduction he brayed at me across the hotel parking lot 
> "oh
> >jeeze, they let that Triumph crap in here".  I had never met the guy 
> in my
> >life but the NY plate on the car and the attitude let me know who he 
> was.
> >
> >It was my 9th year at Westminster with my TR and the first time 
> anyone,
> >anywhere, at a car show had ever attempted to make me feel unwelcome.  
> 
> We go
> >to the shows to be with all of our friends and make new ones.  Over 
> the
> >years we have made hundreds of friends traveling around the eastern 
> US.
> >
> >The TR?  It has won numerous first place trophies at Westminster and 
> other
> >shows and a first in peoples choice at the VTR nationals in '96.  Not
> >exactly crap.
> >My other LBC is a '67 MGB roadster with a 3.6 alloy V-8 and all the
> >trimmings...my pals in the Triumph club think it's cool...MG folks 
> don't
> >seem very open and friendly from what I've seen lately.  Or is it just 
> 
> a
> >few?  I don't think it is an attitude thing as I am a Viet Nam combat 
> vet
> >that scored 105 with bonus points on his postal exam.  I manage to get 
> 
> along
> >even with my attitude "potential".
> >
> >I'm a car guy, I like them all.  Shiney, fast, loud, I don't care 
> where they
> >were built or what name is on the grille.  Life is really very short 
> to
> >blind yourself to a world of enjoyment due to some crazy notion that 
> your
> >car is better than someone elses.
> >
> >I have no ill feelings toward Dave, I just find his statement that MG 
> owners
> >are caring, kind, 90's kind of folks not in tune with his actions.  A
> >gentleman would never tell a stranger that his car, children or wife 
> is
> >ugly.  Even in New York.
> >
> >Jack Emery
> >'67 B V-8 
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

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