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Re: midget clutch question

To: Dustin Howarth <howarth@pulsenet.com>
Subject: Re: midget clutch question
From: Arthur Pfenninger <ch155@FreeNet.Buffalo.EDU>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:38:59 -0400 (EDT)
        The wirrring sound with the clutch pressed in sounds like a throw
out bearing to me.

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Dustin Howarth wrote:

> Well, here's my first advice request since purchasing my '73 Midget in May.
>  It has been on the road for about 3 weeks, but then I ran into clutch
> problems.
> 
> Since the first drive, there was a mild clunk when releasing the clutch
> pedal, especially, it seemed, in reverse.  There also seemed to be a large
> amount of miscellaneous noises in the trannny (loud first gear, etc.). 
> Often it was difficult to get into first gear after a stop, and even going
> 2nd to 1st  sometimes produced a slow, mild grind before slipping into 1st.
>  These may or may not be related to the current problem:
> 
> During a typical drive home, I found that shifting was becoming difficult,
> requiring me to rev  the engine to slip into each gear.  When I stopped in
> my driveway in neutral and running, I could not get into 2,3,or 4 at all,
> and any attempt to slip into first (with clutch in of course) was met with
> a high speed grind.  Pedal pressure seemed much lower, but I haven't driven
> the car enough to have a definite feel.
> 
> This is where the plot thickens, possibly splitting into two problems.  It
> seems that the clutch pedal/slave cylinder was not functioning, so we
> checked clutch MC level -- very low, despite no evidence of a leak.  After
> refilling and bleeding, pedal pressure seemed better, but maybe not as good
> as original.  While securely up on stands, I started the car and carefully
> shifted thrrough all 4 grears at idle -- seemed fine, although the first
> gear grind happened the first attempt only.  The car came down, and as I
> pulled out for a test drive, there was a new, disturbing whine from the
> bell housing area while in gear with clutch in.  During the drive, the car
> shifted, but I still experienced difficulty getting into 1st after a stop,
> and had some resistance from 2nd to 3rd.  Back into the garage.
> 
> The question is:  Does this sound purely hydraulic, as in I didn't bleed
> the system sufficiently), or does it sound more serious (thrrow-out
> bearing, linkage, etc.)?  I'm planning to attempt bleeding once more before
> diving into engine/tranny removal.  I'm not too concerned about the removal
> (I have space, equipment, and good help), but I'd rather wait until winter
> if possible, so I can do the while-I'm-at-its without losing summer driving
> time.  
> 
> Sorry for the long message, but I wanted to give as much background as
> possible.  I suspect these are typical symptoms of something.  If you made
> it this far, can you give me some help? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Dustin Howarth
> howarth@pulsenet.com
> '73 Midget
> 


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