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Re: The price of driving. Semi- LBC related

To: "John McEwen" <mmcewen@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>, <mgs@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: The price of driving. Semi- LBC related
From: "Lawrie Alexander" <Lawrie@britcars.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 12:19:08 -0800
IMHO, this is quite possibly the most sensible posting to the list in a
long time, John!

Lawrie (who drives a 1983 Dodge van when not in his '67 BGT)

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> From: John McEwen <mmcewen@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
> To: mgs@autox.team.net
> Subject: The price of driving.  Semi- LBC related
> Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 9:48 AM
> 
> Hello fellow MGophiles:
> 
> It seems to me that in our discussion of the cost of tuneups and
> maintenance on new cars we are overlooking one significant thing.
> 
> We are advocates of old iron and most of us possess the wherewithall to
> maintain and repair said iron.  So why the hell are you driving new
> vehicles which you can't maintain or repair?
> 
> I suggest that there are plenty of decent old cars which can be purchased
> for a song and maintained/repaired very cheaply by their owners - you.
> 
> My annual costs for operating 3 drivers are very low.  The occasional set
> of tires, brake pad/shoes, and the odd necessary repair are all that's
> really required plust the cost of fuel.  I'd rather spend my money on old
> LBCs.
> 
> My fuel costs are higher than for new vehicles but my insurance costs are
> much lower while car payments and depreciation are non-existent so my
> bottom line much better.  My family is perfectly happy driving old cars
and
> are unconcerned about reliability which is excellent.
> 
> My wife drives a 1981 Pontiac Parisienne Brougham Coupe with a 305,
> automatic and every option known to man.  I paid $1100 ($750 US) for the
> Pontiac 3 years ago when it had 185,000 km ($115,000 miles) on it.  I
> painted it.  It looks and drives like a new car.
> 
> My daughter drives a 1981 Buick Skylark Limited Coupe with 2.8 V6 and
every
> option imaginable.  I paid $1100 for it with 115,000 km (71,000 miles) on
> it 2 years ago.  I replaced the rear shocks on it.
> 
> The Pontiac replaced a '78 Buick Skylark sedan with a 3.8 V6 in it.  I
paid
> $700 for it and my wife drove it for 2 years with no problems other than
> replacing the tires.  My daughter inherited it and she drove it for a
year
> then I sold it for $500 and bought the '81.
> 
> In December, I purchased a 1980 Chrysler LeBaron Medallion Coupe with 318
> 2-barrel.  The car has every option available for the year and has new
> paint.  The interior is perfect and the car has 115,000 km (71,000 miles)
> on it.  I paid $1500 ($900 US) for it and to date have replaced the valve
> seals which cost me $15.00.
> 
> I recently purchased a '76 Ford Ranchero with 63,000 original miles and a
> blown engine.  I bought another car - a '78 LTD II - removed the engine
and
> trans (351M and TRX trans) from it and installed them in the Ranchero.  I
> then sold the LTD for $100.  Total cost $800 (US $500).  The car looks
> good, runs well and is a functional pickup truck for me.
> 
> I would get in any of these cars today and set out on a cross country
trip
> if I had to.  I know that they will start under the worst winter
> conditions, are warm and reliable and can be fixed with parts from any
> junkyard or auto supply store.  I don't need or want a new car.  The
price
> of my fuel is easily offset by my insurance savings and my cars don't
> depreciate, they are appreciating or at least keeping pace with
inflation.
> If something major breaks, I won't fix it but simply dump the car and buy
> another one.  This would apply if I were on a trip as well.
> 
> My regular winter beater was a '78 Cadillac Eldorado.  I drove this car
for
> 8 winters and put about 75,000 km on it and it now has gone about 1/4
> million km.  It is still completely reliable.  It cost very little to
> maintain and with the front wheel drive and 5,000 lb weight it would go
> nearly anywhere under nearly every circumstance. It had fantastic
handling
> and ride and was absolutely reliable.  I paid $2200 ($1350 US) for it and
> will easily get $1,000 ($600 US) for it today.  I think this old car may
> have been the best I have ever owned in terms of the sheer satisfaction
it
> gave me to own and drive it.
> 
> My point is simple.  There are lots of good cars out there lurking
> forgotten in old people's garages or abandoned at the back of dealers'
> lots.  The bargain finders and nickel ads are full of them and the
> classifieds are bulging.   Go out and buy one. Swallow your pride and to
> hell with the Joneses. Drive it and enjoy it.  Tell the new car service
> writers to hook their computers to some other sucker's wheels.  You've
been
> emancipated.  And for those of you with pollution regulations, get a
really
> old one.  The older they are the simpler were the emissions standards and
> pollution-related equipment - in most cases.  You Californians now have
it
> easier with the new regulations.
> 
> Drop me a line if you don't want to pursue this on the list and I'll
offer
> "best buy" suggestions to anyone.  I've owned enough cars to have a good
> idea of what to get.
> 
> John McEwen
> 
> Determinedly driving the past and saving money doing it.
> 
> 

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