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Re: Radiator fan wiring (was Re: radiator mystery)- plus heater

To: "Telewest (PH)" <paul.hunt1@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Radiator fan wiring (was Re: radiator mystery)- plus heater
From: Paul Root <proot@iaces.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:32:04 -0500
Telewest (PH) wrote:

>>The DPPO installed a puller fan to replace the two pushers, but he wired
>>it up to the third fuse down and put a toggle switch on the dash
>>(through one of the blank plates). The DPO didn't like that, as he
>>couldn't remember to turn the thing on and so pulled the switch out and
>>has the fan run all the time. The thermo switch wasn't secure and would
>>push out (not all the way) when warm.
>>
>>I got a new switch, gasket and clip (missing) and installed that.
>>
>>Question 1: Is there anyway of testing this with a ohm meter or volt
>>meter? I guess I have to insure that the water is 200F or better in the
>>rad. And that the radiator is completely full right?
>>
> 
> Only in hot water as you say.
> 
> 
>>Question 2: How to I get a radiator that doesn't have a cap completely
>>full? I filled the overflow last night, should/will the radiator suck
>>that in until it's full?
>>
> 
> The rad should eventually exchange any air in the rad with coolant from the
> expansion tank but it may take a few cycles.  There should be a top-up/bleed
> plug somewhere in the system, either on top of the rad or the thermostat
> elbow.  Have the front slightly higher than the back when topping up.


Ah, good idea. There is a screw in plug over the thermostat.


> 
>>Question 3: The original wiring is not working. I looked at the '78
>>wiring diagram in Bentley and found an inline fuse. I found it under the
>>hood, and sure enough it was blown. I didn't have any to match the fuse
>>in there. It was probably a 1/4 inch longer than regular. It says 30 SFE
>>on the end. Is that the right fuse?
>>
> 
> Should be a standard 17amp rated 35 amp blow.  Having it on the green
> circuit is a bad thing as it will tend to slow down the turn flashers more
> than normal.  Factory 4-cylinder cars had the in-line in the output from the
> ignition relay which is better than the green circuit.  Factory V8s had
> their own fan relay direct off the brown which is even better - voltage drop
> is lower still and the fan stat is only carrying relay current and not fan
> current.


I printed off the cooling fan pages from your site. Would I get relays 
at any auto parts store? What am I looking for in these?


> 
>>Question 4: While were on fuses. In my debugging, and wiring play, I
>>blew a fuse (number 3), I went to Menard's and got a 5 pack. Last night,
>>in my test drive, or maybe just before, I blew it again. I don't have it
>>here with me, but I'm thinking it was a 20amp. Is that right? Bentley
>>says 35 amp, which I believe the list in the past week has been saying
>>17 amp nominal with 35 amp burst? Something like that. Fuse 2 looks to
>>be the same amperage as 3, I don't remember 4, but 1 seems to be a thin
>>wire. This seems suspect to me.
>>
> 
> 17/35 is correct as above.  If the fans are still on the green fuse that
> could cause it.


Ok, great. I'll try a standard in the inline fuse and see if I can get 

power thru the real wires, and thru the stat.


Thanks Paul!

Paul
'77B


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