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Re: [Mgs] Re. Brake Failure, now Left foot/Right Foot Braking

To: <barrie@look.ca>, <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Re. Brake Failure, now Left foot/Right Foot Braking
From: Mike Eldred <redscirocco@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:23:25 -0400
Even if I buy that it's an "everyone else is doing it" kind of phenomenon, it
still doesn't explain why Toyota drivers are prone to "falsely" blaming the
auto manufacturer, while drivers of, say , Ford, Hyundai, Volkswagen, Fiat,
Nissan, etc., are not.  Does it mean there is something different about Toyota
drivers, or does it mean there's something different about Toyota cars?


> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:28:32 -0400
> To: redscirocco@hotmail.com; paul.hunt1@blueyonder.co.uk;
mgs@autox.team.net
> From: barrie@look.ca
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Re. Brake Failure, now Left foot/Right Foot Braking
>
>
> There is a definite phenomena related to the masses.and that is they
> pick up and go with a trend. You just have to look at the stupid
> trend to buy bottled water despite it being less regulated than tap
> water from disciplined municipalities, or the equally stupid trend to
> get permanent tattoos, to realise that the Toyota situation is
> another trend. I have to confess I have been guilty of hitting the
> wrong pedal. Fortunately being an experienced and "conscious"
> driver I recognise my mistake. But someone not in petrol-head" mode
> may not recognise the mistake.
>
> At 08:38 AM 8/27/2010, Mike Eldred wrote:
> >"Almost believable" is right, but a lot of people seem to believe it. It
> >would be a lot more believable if the "black boxes" could tell us why all
> >these bad drivers chose to buy Toyotas. Why aren't other brands suffering
> >from a rash of sudden-idiocy-induced unintended accelleration? Why is it
that
> >people who cannot operate two pedals are attracted to one brand?
> >
> >Mike Eldred
> >
> >
> > > From: paul.hunt1@blueyonder.co.uk
> > > To: twobees@sprynet.com; mgs@autox.team.net
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:02:53 +0100
> > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Re. Brake Failure, now Left foot/Right Foot Braking
> > >
> > > The people who have been having trouble with Toyotas over the last year
or
> > > so have almost certainly been driving automatics for many years before.
The
> > > Toyota problem seems to be far more serious, although precisely what
still
> > > doesn't seem to be clear. The most recent thing I have read on the
subject
> > > is that Toyota claim from the analysis of a number of 'black boxes'
> > > recovered from crashed cars (!), that the drivers didn't brake at all.
That
> > > beggars belief, and even the company putting it out as a cause is
almost
> > > believable, in that they expect us to believe it. Either that, or the
human
> > > race is getting far more stupid than ever I had believed.
> > >
> > > PaulH.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > ... Makes sense since you don't have to
> > > > move your foot & leg over. (And, in the past year more than a few
Toyota
> > > > drivers have had a major problem doing that.
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