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Subject: Re: [Mgs] [tr3a] Help wanted (needed)
From: Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:51:19 -0700
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Float sunk, or debris lodged in the valve. This last has happened to me =
on more than one occasion, requiring a roadside repair. It should not =
happen with an inline filter and new rubber fuel lines.

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Max Heim
mvheim@sonic.net



> On Apr 29, 2019, at 1:12 PM, John DiFede via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> What model carb do you have???   It sounds like the float valve is =
stuck open. =20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs =
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>> Failing float bowl valve.
>>=20
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 5:29 PM rcharmoz axxessgroup.com =
<http://axxessgroup.com/> rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com =
>>=20
>> Hi Gang,
>>=20
>> I realize that this forum is geared to restorers, but there is so =
much knowledge to be shared, I thought I'd tap into it.
>>=20
>> Rewind to a couple of weeks ago when I rebuilt the carbs with all new =
tiny little parts.
>>=20
>> Everything went smoothly and the car ran great until today when I =
noticed a strong smell of gasoline while driving.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I got home and checked to find out that the front float chamber was =
spewing (big time) gasoline from its overflow tube.
>>=20
>> I took it apart, checked it out and put it back together. Same =
problem.
>>=20
>> I took out the jet assembly, checked it out and put it back together. =
Same problem.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Now, the only things that are different are the part substitutions =
recommended by Moss.
>>=20
>> On the float chamber it is the lower mounting bolt assembly.
>>=20
>> On the jet assembly, it is the rubber 'O' rings that substitute for =
the tiny cork washers. I've kept the large one.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> It acts as though the fuel flow to the carb is obstructed somewhere. =
The front float chamber fills up and the gasoline just pours out of the =
secondary tube.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Since the car starts and drives (sputtering a bit until it gets up to =
speed) while all this is happening, I assume fuel is getting to at least =
the rear carb, and likely the front carb as well.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Wassup??????? I almost bought the farm on this one=E2=80=A6
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Remy
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 12:00 PM
>> Subject: [tr3a] Re: [Mgs] Bleeding brakes question...
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Float sunk, or debris lodged in the valve. This last has =
happened to me on more than one occasion, requiring a roadside repair. =
It should not happen with an inline filter and new rubber fuel =
lines.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">--</div><div class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net</a></div><div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Apr 29, 2019, at 1:12 PM, John DiFede via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">What model carb do you have??? =
&nbsp; It sounds like the float valve is stuck open. &nbsp;</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br=
 style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Apr 28, =
2019, at 6:36 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Failing float bowl valve.</div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr =
28, 2019, 5:29 PM rcharmoz<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://axxessgroup.com/"; class=3D"">axxessgroup.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com"; =
class=3D"">rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[tr3a] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com"; =
class=3D"">tr3a@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><u =
class=3D""></u><div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><div id=3D"m_1322536497773774782ygrp-mlmsg" class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_1322536497773774782ygrp-msg" class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_1322536497773774782ygrp-text" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div =
class=3D"m_1322536497773774782WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hi Gang,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">I realize that this forum is geared to restorers, but there =
is so much knowledge to be shared, I thought I'd tap into it.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Rewind to a couple of weeks ago when I =
rebuilt the carbs with all new tiny little parts.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Everything went smoothly and the car ran great until today =
when I noticed a strong smell of gasoline while driving.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">I got home and checked to find out that the front float =
chamber was spewing (big time) gasoline from its overflow tube.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">I took it apart, checked it out and put it =
back together. Same problem.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">I took out the jet assembly, checked it out and put it back =
together. Same problem.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Now, the only =
things that are different are the part substitutions recommended by =
Moss.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">On the float =
chamber it is the lower mounting bolt assembly.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">On the jet assembly, it is the rubber 'O' rings that =
substitute for the tiny cork washers. I've kept the large one.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">It acts as though the fuel flow to the carb is obstructed =
somewhere. The front float chamber fills up and the gasoline just<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D"">pours</u><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>out of the secondary =
tube.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Since the car =
starts and drives (sputtering a bit until it gets up to speed) while all =
this is happening, I assume fuel is getting to at least the rear carb, =
and likely the front carb as well.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Wassup??????? =
I almost bought the farm on this one=E2=80=A6<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Remy<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"border-top-width: =
1pt; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">tr3a@yahoogroups.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">tr3a@yahoogroups.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, April 26, 2019 =
12:00 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Bob Howard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; TR3b Mail List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">tr3a@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;; Biturbo &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:BiturboZentrum@yahoogroups.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">BiturboZentrum@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[tr3a] Re: [Mgs] Bleeding =
brakes question...<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>=
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