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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Coolant draining on an MGB
From: i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 07:41:28 -0700
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I am working to drain the coolant from my Healey to flush the cooling
system ahead of swapping in an Aluminum Radiator. The heater valve on the
block is stuck open. Not a bad thing, but I want it to work, so I have been
messing with it off and on the two weeks.
So yes I get the idea of wanting things to work.
Cheers
Will be attacking my B this summer, so this discussion is very helpful
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:45 AM wkilleffer--- via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Yeah, I went out to the garage last night and tried, yet again, to get a
> piece of coathanger wire up into that passage without avail. I may have a
> more flexible piece of wire to try this evening. It may nit be the end of
> the world, but I like for things to work if they will. Had I known this
> would he an issue when I had the head off about five years ago, I would
> have tried to remedy it then.
>
> Could I suck the coolant out with a shop vac?
>
> *Sent from my LG Mobile*
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *PaulHunt73
> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 3:44 AM
> *To: *Dan DiBiase;wkilleffer@epbfi.com;
> *Cc: *mgs@autox.team.net;
> *Subject:*Re: [Mgs] Coolant draining on an MGB
>
> Even if you remove the radiator altogether the block is still half full of
> old coolant, and removing the water pump doesn't get much more out.
> Remember the original poster was asking how to get the bad coolant out.  
> Having
> a drain point on the rad is convenient for a simple drain and refill, but
> that's all.
>
> You can drain a roadster cleanly without that by shoving a piece of card
> under the hose and past the cross-member over a bowl, slacken the hose clip
> and push it right back, then push a blunt screwdriver up between hose and
> rad port.  It only trickles out, but I leave it to do that while I get on
> with the next phase of the job.
>
> I'd be surprised if the later engines didn't have the drain plug (replaced
> the tap a long time before that) below and to the right of the oil gauge
> connection, but try as I might with stiff wire I didn't get any more than a
> rusty dampness below it.  Frequently clogged with casting sand, some have
> had to 'chisel' it out with rods after removing the head.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> On my '76B, with '77 engine, there is no drain valve. You have to pull the
> lowest radiator hose off the water pump to drain the coolant. It's a mess.
> Need a really wide pan on the ground underneath, and even then it tends to
> run along the front crossmember and steering rack and make a mess.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I am working to drain the coolant from my Healey to flush =
the cooling system ahead of swapping in an Aluminum Radiator. The heater va=
lve on the block is stuck open. Not a bad thing, but I want it to work, so =
I have been messing with it off and on the two weeks.=C2=A0<div>So yes I ge=
t the idea of wanting things to work.</div><div>Cheers</div><div>Will be at=
tacking my B this summer, so this discussion is very helpful<br clear=3D"al=
l"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_=
signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=
=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _____=
__ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____=
/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialist=
s.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helv=
etica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a tho=
usand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random=
 auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:45 AM wkilleffer--- via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs=
@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">











<div style=3D"margin-bottom:45px">
    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">Yeah, I went out to the=
 garage last night and tried, yet again, to get a piece of coathanger wire =
up into that passage without avail. I may have a more flexible piece of wir=
e to try this evening. It may nit be the end of the world, but I like for t=
hings to work if they will. Had I known this would he an issue when I had t=
he head off about five years ago, I would have tried to remedy it then.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Could I suck the coo=
lant out with a shop vac?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div id=3D"gmail=
-m_-3462595765731024751LGEmailSignatureBox" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">=
<i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:10pt=
"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-3462595765731024751LGEmailHeader" dir=3D"auto"><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original message------</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>PaulHunt73<u></u><u></u></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><b>Date: </b>Thu, May 9, 2019 3:44 AM<u></u><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </=
b>Dan DiBiase<a href=3D"mailto:;wkilleffer@epbfi.com"; target=3D"_blank">;wk=
illeffer@epbfi.com</a>;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto=
:mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>;</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [Mgs] Coolant draining on an MGB</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Even if you remove the radiator altogether the block =
is still=20
half full of old coolant, and removing the water pump doesn&#39;t get much =
more=20
out.=C2=A0 Remember the original poster was asking how to get the bad coola=
nt=20
out.=C2=A0 </font><font size=3D"2">Having a drain point on the rad is conve=
nient for=20
a simple drain and refill, but that&#39;s all.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2">You can drain a roadster cleanly without that by shov=
ing a=20
piece of card under the hose and past the cross-member over a bowl, slacken=
 the=20
hose clip and push it right back, then push a blunt screwdriver up between =
hose=20
and rad port.=C2=A0 It only trickles out, but I leave it to=C2=A0do that wh=
ile I=20
get on with the next phase of the job.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2">I&#39;d be surprised if the later engines didn&#39;t =
have the drain=20
plug (replaced the tap a long time before that) below and to the right of t=
he=20
oil gauge connection, but try as I might with stiff wire I didn&#39;t get a=
ny more=20
than a rusty dampness below it.=C2=A0 Frequently clogged with casting sand,=
 some=20
have had to &#39;chisel&#39; it out with rods after removing the head.</fon=
t></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2">PaulH.</font></div>
<blockquote>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div><font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">On my &#39;76B, with &#39;77 engine, there is no drain v=
alve. You have to=20
  pull the lowest radiator hose off the water pump to drain the coolant. It=
&#39;s a=20
  mess. Need a really wide pan on the ground underneath, and even then it t=
ends=20
  to run along the front crossmember and steering rack and make a=20
mess.</div></blockquote></div>


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