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That=E2=80=99s admirable, but let=E2=80=99s keep this in perspective.
There is nothing necessarily wrong with 50-year-old wiring. The copper =
is good, and the insulation is usually in pretty good shape, too, except =
maybe one or two runs in the engine compartment that get pretty hot. The =
cloth bundling may be ragged, but that has nothing to do with electrical =
faults.
It=E2=80=99s just corrosion at the junctions, and the physical condition =
of the female connectors, that are the issues here. Let=E2=80=99s not =
intimidate the man into thinking he needs to rewire the entire vehicle. =
Going through the connections is something that can be done a little at =
a time. Pull one, clean the male leads, smear on some dielectric grease, =
pop on a new female connector if warranted. They tend to be clustered in =
a few places =E2=80=94 if you pull them one at a time there is less =
chance of misconnection.
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:27 PM, dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> IF you are willing to put in the time and effort, you can build your =
own wiring harness. I did that on a 67. I followed the wiring diagram, =
used the correct colors, but =E2=80=93 I put in a 10 fuse fuse box (I =
think =E2=80=93 its been a while). Everything has its own fuse sized =
accordingly. The lights, horns, blinkers, electric fan, etc. took my =
untold hours to figure it out.
> =20
> Wiring is actually simple - power to fuse to switch to device to =
ground. That=E2=80=99s it. Pretty much everything follows that. Do =
the circuits one at a time and it will be easy, use twist ties to hold =
everything together, then tie wraps, then cut those off and wrap it.
> =20
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Mgs
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Nightmare
> =20
> Hello folks,
>=20
> I feel oh sort of superior! An unusual feeling in the MG world as I am =
a novice. When I built my MGB GT V8 I was determined to make it bullet =
proof even if it meant not being "original". There is a chap, whose =
name escapes me, who put out an electrical wiring harness design which =
was "point to point". He was a big time engineer in Triumph so I =
followed his design and actually bought parts form him. It had a =
central "control box" with solenoids, fuses etc etc. So that's what I =
have in my GT. Bags of fuses and there are no branches causing =
confusion. It is not original true, but then it is bulletproof. =
Probably no more expensive than buying a harness from British Wiring or =
others if you do it yourself.
>=20
> I have his article, complete with diagrams, from the British V8 outfit =
which was pure MGs but now any Brit V8 !!
>=20
> Barrie.
>=20
> On 1/16/2020 2:41 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote:
>> =20
>> Looking to your picture, I think it is better to do a thorough wiring =
job.=20
>> It looks, like the car has been exposed to =E2=80=9Cnature=E2=80=9D =
for many times.=20
>> This means, a lot of contacts are suspect of being poor or bad.=20
>> So besides true fault finding, I=E2=80=99d dismantle all wiring and =
get all contacts cleaned.
>> Clean all bullet connectors and replace all their interconnects.
>> Clean all other connectors and replace these when they are bad.
>> I did this with my BGT in 1996 and after that job I never had any =
electrical failures, besides a faulty alternator (diode pack) and =
starter solenoid, where the nut did not keep the 12 V wires fixed =
anymore.=20
>> =20
>> So get a matching electrical diagram of the car=E2=80=99s built year.
>> The Haynes MGB manual always helped me out.
>> =20
>> Hope this helps for the long term.
>> =20
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>> =E2=80=9971 BGT
>> =20
>> Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> Verzonden: donderdag 16 januari 2020 20:20
>> Aan: Michael MacLean
>> CC: MGs
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Nightmare
>> =20
>> I think you still have a ground problem. Should the steering column =
have a separate ground wire on a 69? I know there is one in the turn =
signal harness.
>> =20
>> It does help to consult the wiring diagram, to figure out where the =
common grounds are.
>> =20
>> =20
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>> =20
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Michael MacLean via Mgs =
>>> =20
>>> In an earlier post I told how my tach in my 69 GT would die when the =
headlights were turned on. Someone mentioned that the tach was looking =
for a ground through the light wiring for the instrument. That turned =
out to be true, somewhat. To test this I pulled the instrument to =
inspect the wiring and found what you see in the picture. One arrow =
points to the ground connection on the back of the case and the other =
arrow points to a common ground just floating around behind the =
instrument. For an experiment I slipped the ground wire connector over =
the threaded mouting stud of the case back and shoved the tach back into =
place temporarily to find out about the missing ground theory. It =
worked! You didn't think it was going to be that easy did you? The =
light had not illuminated the instrument before either, so after =
scraping and sanding the bulb hlder and the tube fitting on the back of =
the tach that the bulb shoves into, the light worked too, but wait =
there's more! After this hollow victory I had to use the horn on the =
test drive. Now the horn does not work, but when I push on the steering =
wheel stalk to activate the horn, the brake warning light comes on. I =
just love electrical problems. Not in my element here. Any ideas?
>>> Mike MacLean
>>> _______________________________________________
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">That=E2=80=99s admirable, but let=E2=80=99s keep this in =
perspective.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">There =
is nothing necessarily wrong with 50-year-old wiring. The copper is =
good, and the insulation is usually in pretty good shape, too, except =
maybe one or two runs in the engine compartment that get pretty hot. The =
cloth bundling may be ragged, but that has nothing to do with electrical =
faults.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=
=99s just corrosion at the junctions, and the physical condition of the =
female connectors, that are the issues here. Let=E2=80=99s not =
intimidate the man into thinking he needs to rewire the entire vehicle. =
Going through the connections is something that can be done a little at =
a time. Pull one, clean the male leads, smear on some dielectric grease, =
pop on a new female connector if warranted. They tend to be clustered in =
a few places =E2=80=94 if you pull them one at a time there is less =
chance of misconnection.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:27 PM, dave via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">IF you are willing to put in the time and =
effort, you can build your own wiring harness. I did that on a =
67. I followed the wiring diagram, used the correct colors, but =
=E2=80=93 I put in a 10 fuse fuse box (I think =E2=80=93 its been a =
while). Everything has its own fuse sized accordingly. The =
lights, horns, blinkers, electric fan, etc. took my untold hours =
to figure it out.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Wiring is actually simple =
- power to fuse to switch to device to ground. That=E2=80=99s =
it. Pretty much everything follows that. Do the circuits one =
at a time and it will be easy, use twist ties to hold everything =
together, then tie wraps, then cut those off and wrap it.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Barrie Robinson =
via Mgs<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 16, 2020 =
2:06 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] Electrical =
Nightmare<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hello folks,<br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">I feel oh sort of superior! An unusual feeling in the MG =
world as I am a novice. When I built my MGB GT V8 I was determined =
to make it bullet proof even if it meant not being "original". =
There is a chap, whose name escapes me, who put out an electrical wiring =
harness design which was "point to point". He was a big time =
engineer in Triumph so I followed his design and actually bought parts =
form him. It had a central "control box" with solenoids, =
fuses etc etc. So that's what I have in my GT. =
Bags of fuses and there are no branches causing =
confusion. It is not original true, but then it is =
bulletproof. Probably no more expensive than buying a =
harness from British Wiring or others if you do it yourself.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have his article, complete with diagrams, =
from the British V8 outfit which was pure MGs but now any Brit V8 !!<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Barrie.</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On 1/16/2020 2:41 PM, Hans Duinhoven via =
Mgs wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""> <o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Looking to your picture, I think it is =
better to do a thorough wiring job.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">It looks, like the car has been exposed to =
=E2=80=9Cnature=E2=80=9D for many times.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">This means, a lot of contacts are suspect =
of being poor or bad.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">So besides true fault finding, I=E2=80=99d =
dismantle all wiring and get all contacts cleaned.</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Clean all bullet connectors and replace =
all their interconnects.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Clean all other connectors and replace these when they are =
bad.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">I did this with my BGT =
in 1996 and after that job I never had any electrical failures, besides =
a faulty alternator (diode pack) and starter solenoid, where the nut did =
not keep the 12 V wires fixed anymore.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">So get a matching electrical diagram of =
the car=E2=80=99s built year.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">The=
Haynes MGB manual always helped me out.</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hope this helps for the long =
term.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Cheers,</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hans</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=9971 BGT</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""> </span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">Namens<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Max Heim via Mgs<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Verzonden:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>donderdag 16 januari 2020 =
20:20<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Aan:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Michael MacLean<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">CC:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>MGs<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Onderwerp:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] Electrical =
Nightmare</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""> <o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">I think you still have a ground problem. =
Should the steering column have a separate ground wire on a 69? I know =
there is one in the turn signal harness.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
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class=3D"">It does help to consult the wiring diagram, to figure out =
where the common grounds are.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">--</span><o:p =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Max =
Heim</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
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class=3D"">'66 MGB</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
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class=3D""> <o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" =
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On =
Jan 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <<a =
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text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""> <o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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class=3D"">In an earlier post I told how my tach in my 69 GT would die =
when the headlights were turned on. Someone mentioned that the =
tach was looking for a ground through the light wiring for the =
instrument. That turned out to be true, somewhat. To test =
this I pulled the instrument to inspect the wiring and found what you =
see in the picture. One arrow points to the ground connection on =
the back of the case and the other arrow points to a common ground just =
floating around behind the instrument. For an experiment I slipped =
the ground wire connector over the threaded mouting stud of the case =
back and shoved the tach back into place temporarily to find out about =
the missing ground theory. It worked! You didn't think it =
was going to be that easy did you? The light had not illuminated =
the instrument before either, so after scraping and sanding the bulb =
hlder and the tube fitting on the back of the tach that the bulb shoves =
into, the light worked too, but wait there's more! After this =
hollow victory I had to use the horn on the test drive. Now the =
horn does not work, but when I push on the steering wheel stalk to =
activate the horn, the brake warning light comes on. I just love =
electrical problems. Not in my element here. Any ideas?<o:p =
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