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Hans, Great to read that all is working fine again!
Op 30-11-2020 om 14:10 schreef h.duinhoven@planet.nl:
>
> Here=E2=80=99s the latest update.
>
> A local workshop has overhauled the starter.
>
> New brushes, commutator flattened on a lathe etc. new bearings and Bendi=
x.
>
> Placed the starter back in the GT and it runs as new =E2=80=93 starts we=
ll again!
>
> A nice tour in the late November sun was the reward.
>
> As salt has been sprayed over the roads after the first freezing
> nights, the GT remains inside till spring.
>
> Battery on the tender=E2=80=A6
>
> Time for the other classics (3 Puch mopeds from the early seventies).
>
> Thank you for all good advices.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> 71 BGT
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *Namens *h.duinhoven@planet.nl
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 19 november 2020 20:12
> *Aan:* 'Richard Lindsay' <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
> *CC:* 'mglist' <mgs@autox.team.net>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas
>
> I have tested the starter outside of the car. Bendix works well, but
> motor runs poorly with lots of sparking over the brushes.
>
> So I took your advice and it is now at the local repair shop. They=E2=80=
=99ll
> disassemble it first, in order to see it is feasible to do a repair,
> or a new starter is better.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Verzonden:* zondag 15 november 2020 14:57
> *Aan:* Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas
>
> My vote is to have your local shop do the rebuild. Turn the commutator
> on the lathe and replace the brushes.
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <h.duinhoven@planet.nl
>
> I measured the voltage on the posts while cranking =3D 10,5 volts.
> It is on a digital meter, so I wonder if that=E2=80=99s a good value=
.
>
> The same value is measured on the starter ingoing post.
>
> So no tension loss on the electrical circuits.
>
>
> Now there is a discussion:
>
> Repair the starter or buy a new one.
>
> High torque starter =3D =E2=82=AC 325,00, which is pricy
>
> Original starter on exchange base =3D =E2=82=AC 200,00
>
> New starter Powerlite =3D =E2=82=AC 239,00
>
> New starter looking like a Lucas (white labelled) =3D =E2=82=AC 135,=
00
>
> https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/sta=
rting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/
> <https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/st=
arting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/>
>
>
> https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024
> <https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024>
>
> There is a local electrical car parts repair shop, where the
> alternator has been repaired +/- 10 years ago.
>
> They did a good job.
>
> I assume they can fix the starter as well, but what is better =E2=80=
=93 a
> new one (Angloparts =3D =E2=82=AC 152 or =E2=82=AC 135,00 at octagon=
parts) or have
> the original repaired=E2=80=A6
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> *Van:* PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas
>
> Yes,=C2=A0measure the voltage=C2=A0right on the battery posts (addin=
g the
> two voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, then
> compare that with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the
> solenoid=C2=A0and starter body when cranking.=C2=A0 The difference b=
etween
> the two is what is being lost in the connections, a volt or so is
> normal but it shouldn't be much more than that.
>
> If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts then=C2=A0that=C2=
=A0is
> the problem.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Next job is the slow starter motor.
>
> I already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the
> battery to chassis cable.
>
> Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable.
>
> Nothing helped so far.
>
> So next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I
> assume it will be o.k. as the battery is new.
>
> Following step will be measuring the voltage over the starter
> motor +12V to the engine.
>
> When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled,
> this is logical.
>
> Nice winter job.
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26
> *Aan:* Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com
>>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
>
> OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and
> obvious, now!) advice..............................
>
> Dan D
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
> <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay
> wrote:
>
> I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose,
> added a a long bit of hose and with the coil disconnected,
> used the fuel pump to pump old fuel into jugs.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase
:
>
> Hi all.... My '76B, which=C2=A0was off the road for 5
> years, was recently returned to me from the shop. They
> added some new gas but did not siphon out the 5 year
> old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it
> towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to
> siphon out most of the gas before I fill it up. It is
> currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6
> gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy).
>
> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am
> wondering if the interior of the tank is baffled, as I
> can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area and
> it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really
> like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up=
.
>
> Thx,
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B- Getting There
>
> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
>
> Central NJ USA
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
> <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
>
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<p>Hans, Great to read that all is working fine again!</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">=
Here=E2=80=99s
the latest update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">A local workshop has overhauled the starter. <o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">New brushes, commutator flattened on a lathe
etc. new bearings and Bendix.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Placed the starter back in the GT and it runs
as new =E2=80=93 starts well again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">A nice tour in the late November sun was the
reward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">As salt has been sprayed over the roads after
the first freezing nights, the GT remains inside till
spring.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Battery on the tender=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Time for the other classics (3 Puch mopeds from
the early seventies).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Thank you for all good advices. <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounce=
s@autox.team.net"><mgs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>Namens </b><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h=
.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 19 november 2020 20:12<br>
<b>Aan:</b> 'Richard Lindsay'
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:richardoli=
ndsay@gmail.com"><richardolindsay@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=
=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><mgs@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning
Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">I have tested the starter outside of the car.
Bendix works well, but motor runs poorly with lots of
sparking over the brushes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">So I took your advice and it is now at the
local repair shop. They=E2=80=99ll disassemble it first, in or=
der to
see it is feasible to do a repair, or a new starter is
better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Richard Lindsay<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 15 november 2020 14:57<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Hans Duinhoven <<a
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; moz-do-not-send=3D"tru=
e">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>;
MGB-Yahoo <<a href=3D"mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com";
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas<o=
:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My vote is to have your local shop do the
rebuild. Turn the commutator on the lathe and replace the
brushes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <<a
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC
1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
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0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">I measured the voltage on the posts
while cranking =3D 10,5 volts. It is on a digital
meter, so I wonder if that=E2=80=99s a good value.</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">The same value is measured on the
starter ingoing post.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">So no tension loss on the electrical
circuits.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB"><br>
Now there is a discussion:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Repair the starter or buy a new one.</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">High torque starter =3D =E2=82=AC 325,0=
0, which
is pricy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Original starter on exchange base =3D =
=E2=82=AC
200,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">New starter Powerlite =3D =E2=82=AC 239=
,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">New starter looking like a Lucas (white
labelled) =3D =E2=82=AC 135,00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB"><a
href=3D"https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/s=
tarting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/"
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://w=
ww.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mg=
b-electrical-mgb/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB"><a
href=3D"https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/par=
t/26883/082.024"
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://w=
ww.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">There is a local electrical car parts
repair shop, where the alternator has been repaired
+/- 10 years ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">They did a good job.</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">I assume they can fix the starter as
well, but what is better =E2=80=93 a new one (Anglopar=
ts =3D =E2=82=AC
152 or =E2=82=AC 135,00 at octagonparts) or have the
original repaired=E2=80=A6</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
PaulHunt73 <<a
href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">paulhun=
t73@virginmedia.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41<br>
<b>Aan:</b> <a
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">h.duinh=
oven@planet.nl</a><br>
<b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <<a
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>=
;;
'MGB-Yahoo' <<a
href=3D"mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mg-mgb@=
yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was
Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Yes,=C2=A0measure the
voltage=C2=A0right on the battery posts (adding th=
e
two voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when
cranking, then compare that with the voltage at
the battery cable stud on the solenoid=C2=A0and
starter body when cranking.=C2=A0 The difference
between the two is what is being lost in the
connections, a volt or so is normal but it
shouldn't be much more than that.</span><o:p></o:p=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">If you get much less
than 10v at the battery posts then=C2=A0that=C2=A0=
is the
problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">PaulH.</span><o:p></o:p=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black
1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">-----
Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4=
E4E4"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack"
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter motor. <=
/span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery posts
clamps and the post of the battery to chassis
cable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis
to engine cable. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.</span><o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">So next will be verifying the battery
voltage when cranking. I assume it will be o.k. as
the battery is new.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Following step will be measuring the
voltage over the starter motor +12V to the engine.</=
span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is suspect. As
it never was overhauled, this is logical.</span><o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">Nice winter job.</span><o:p></o:p></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto"><span
lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b>Van:</b>
Mgs <<a
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs-bou=
nces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Dan DiBiase<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26<br=
>
<b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay <<a
href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">richard=
olindsay@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <<a
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>=
;;
MGB-Yahoo <<a
href=3D"mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mg-mgb@=
yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">OMG,
duh! Thanks to all that replied with this
excellent (and obvious, now!)
advice..............................<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto">Dan
D<br clear=3D"all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-=
bottom-alt:auto"><a
href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true"=
>http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto">On
Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay
<<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">richa=
rdolindsay@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.=
0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bott=
om-alt:auto">I
had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel
hose, added a a long bit of hose and with the
coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump
old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt:auto">On
Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <<a
href=3D"mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com";
target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">d=
an.dibiase@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.=
0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-=
bottom-alt:auto">Hi
all.... My '76B, which=C2=A0was off the road
for 5 years, was recently returned to me
from the shop. They added some new gas but
did not siphon out the 5 year old gas
(which was just under 1/2 tank when I had
it towed in. The car is running pretty
rough so I want to siphon out most of the
gas before I fill it up. It is currently
showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around
6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge
accuracy).=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">I
was able to pump out about 2 gallons but
am wondering if the interior of the tank
is baffled, as I can't seem to move the
hose beyond a certain area and it's not
sucking up any additional gas. Would
really like to remove a couple more
gallons before I fill it up.<o:p></o:p></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">Thx,=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">Dan
D<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">'76B-=C2=A0
Getting There<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">'65B
- Waiting It's Turn<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto">Central
NJ USA<br clear=3D"all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso=
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href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"; target=3D"_blank"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://da=
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