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Re: [Mgs] [EXT] bleed screws

To: dave@ranteer.com
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] bleed screws
From: John DiFede <difejo1@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:06:21 -0500
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If the wheel cylinder was replaced there=E2=80=99s no telling what you might=
 have.  On my mgb at one point the rear cylinders each had a different size b=
leed screw.  I needed a different wrench for each one. =20

Your threads could be metric if the cylinder was replaced and the replacemen=
t was manufactured in the Far East.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2021, at 2:22 PM, dave@ranteer.com wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I have pretty thoroughly searched Barney's site.  someone please correct m=
e, but i have found no discussion on threads on bleed screws on MGAs. =20
>=20
> the following is from Cecelia at Scarborough Faire.  Leads me to believe t=
hat mine have been mucked with to some extent (no surprise there)
>=20
>=20
> On the MGA wheel cylinders ONLY the early REAR wheel cyls had the 20 tpi B=
SF Whitworth bleeder screws which we also offer in our catalog on the same p=
age (M71E), but be aware that the bleeder screws go into that solid brass ba=
njo M96E Adaptor NOT into the wheel cylinder itself. What goes into the whee=
l cylinder is our part M97 Banjo bolt which is also 3/8-20tpi BSF Whitworth.=

>=20
> On the front wheel cylinders the M71 Bleeder screws are 3/8-24 tpi, NOT Wh=
itworth.
>=20
>> Paul Osborne
>> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
>> University of Rochester=20
>> 201 Hopeman Building RC
>> Rochester NY 14627
>    585-275-5226=20
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>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:55 PM, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> I am pretty sure there would be no factory metric parts on the MGA. But t=
here is information about this online. Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s site probabl=
y has what you need.
>>=20
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>>=20
>>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I have a 56 mga, and the wrench that fits the bleed screws for the brake=
 cylinders (drums all around) are whitworth.  And the thread doesn=E2=80=99t=
 match either metric or SAE on my thread checker so I am assuming that is al=
so metric.
>>> =20
>>> Not knowing the true history or this car I am assuming that it came that=
 way.  But I also realize that maybe someone grabbed the brake cylinders off=
 a TD or even a TC and used those.
>>> =20
>>> Is there any corroborating evidence out there one way or the other?
>>> =20
>>> It seems original in many ways; has a lot of the weird stuff the early c=
ars came with if that is any help.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">If the wheel cylinder was replaced there=E2=
=80=99s no telling what you might have. &nbsp;On my mgb at one point the rea=
r cylinders each had a different size bleed screw. &nbsp;I needed a differen=
t wrench for each one. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Your threads could be metri=
c if the cylinder was replaced and the replacement was manufactured in the Fa=
r East.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 29, 2021, at 2:22 PM, dave@ranteer.=
com wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000; font-size:10pt;=
"><blockquote id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left: 2px=
 solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:blac=
k; font-family:verdana;"><div id=3D"wmQuoteWrapper">I have pretty thoroughly=
 searched Barney's site.&nbsp; someone please correct me, but i have found n=
o discussion on threads on bleed screws on MGAs.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br><=
/div><div>the following is from Cecelia at Scarborough Faire.&nbsp; Leads me=
 to believe that mine have been mucked with to some extent (no surprise ther=
e)</div><div><br></div><div><i><br></i></div><div id=3D"wmQuoteWrapper"><div=
 class=3D""><i><span style=3D"">On the MGA wheel cylinders ONLY the early RE=
AR wheel cyls had the 20 tpi BSF Whitworth bleeder screws which we also offe=
r in our catalog on the same page (M71E), but be aware that the bleeder scre=
ws go into that solid brass banjo M96E Adaptor NOT into the wheel cylinder i=
tself. What goes into the wheel cylinder is our part M97 Banjo bolt which is=
 also 3/8-20tpi BSF Whitworth.</span><br style=3D""><br style=3D""><span sty=
le=3D"">On the front wheel cylinders the M71 Bleeder screws are 3/8-24 tpi, N=
OT Whitworth.</span></i> </div> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> <div class=3D=
""> <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto=
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32@z.rochester.edu" type=3D"cite" class=3D""> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D=
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cing: 0px;"> <div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""> <div class=3D=
""> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt;=
 font-size:12pt;;">Paul&nbsp;Osborne<br class=3D""> Department of Electrical=
 and Computer Eng<br class=3D""> University of Rochester&nbsp;<br class=3D""=
> 201 Hopeman Building RC<br class=3D""> Rochester NY 14627<br class=3D""> <=
/div> </div> </div> </div> </span></span></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <=
div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&=
nbsp; &nbsp;585-275-5226</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white=
-space: pre;"> </span></div> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> </div> </span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-=
newline"> </div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br class=3D=
"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">=
 <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <div><br class=3D""> <block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D""> <div class=3D"">On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:55 PM=
, Max Heim &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; class=3D=
"">mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newl=
ine"> <div class=3D""> <div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mod=
e: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""> I am pretty sure there=
 would be no factory metric parts on the MGA. But there is information about=
 this online. Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s site probably has what you need. <div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""> </div> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D""> <div st=
yle=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tra=
nsform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wi=
dth: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after=
-white-space;" class=3D""> <div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align:=
 start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-sp=
acing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-n=
bsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""> <div style=3D"m=
argin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">--</div> <div style=3D"margin: 0px;=
 font-size: 13px; min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div> <div style=3D=
"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div> </div> </div> </div=
> <div class=3D""><br class=3D""> <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""> <div=
 class=3D"">On Jan 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, dave &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div> <=
br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class=3D""> <div class=3D"WordS=
ection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family=
: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> <div style=3D"margin: 0in; fo=
nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> I have a 56 mg=
a, and the wrench that fits the bleed screws for the brake cylinders (drums a=
ll around) are whitworth.&nbsp; And the thread doesn=E2=80=99t match either m=
etric or SAE on my thread checker so I am assuming that is also metric.<o:p c=
lass=3D""></o:p></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> <o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div> <di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" c=
lass=3D""> Not knowing the true history or this car I am assuming that it ca=
me that way.&nbsp; But I also realize that maybe someone grabbed the brake c=
ylinders off a TD or even a TC and used those.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div> <=
div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
" class=3D""> <o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> Is there any c=
orroborating evidence out there one way or the other?<o:p class=3D""></o:p><=
/div> <div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans=
-serif;" class=3D""> <o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div> <div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> It se=
ems original in many ways; has a lot of the weird stuff the early cars came w=
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