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To: MGlist <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] bleed screws
From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:07:53 -0800
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Sadly, that is true. I recently bought cylinders for a vintage Plymouth =
and found the bleeder nuts were metric 7mm (a size not included in most =
metric wrench sets, and of course not at all in my Plymouth=E2=80=99s =
tool kit =E2=80=94 plus ridiculously small for a bleeder).

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:06 PM, John DiFede <difejo1@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> If the wheel cylinder was replaced there=E2=80=99s no telling what you =
might have.  On my mgb at one point the rear cylinders each had a =
different size bleed screw.  I needed a different wrench for each one. =20=

>=20
> Your threads could be metric if the cylinder was replaced and the =
replacement was manufactured in the Far East.=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 2:22 PM, dave@ranteer.com wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I have pretty thoroughly searched Barney's site.  someone please =
correct me, but i have found no discussion on threads on bleed screws on =
MGAs. =20
>>=20
>> the following is from Cecelia at Scarborough Faire.  Leads me to =
believe that mine have been mucked with to some extent (no surprise =
there)
>>=20
>>=20
>> On the MGA wheel cylinders ONLY the early REAR wheel cyls had the 20 =
tpi BSF Whitworth bleeder screws which we also offer in our catalog on =
the same page (M71E), but be aware that the bleeder screws go into that =
solid brass banjo M96E Adaptor NOT into the wheel cylinder itself. What =
goes into the wheel cylinder is our part M97 Banjo bolt which is also =
3/8-20tpi BSF Whitworth.
>>=20
>> On the front wheel cylinders the M71 Bleeder screws are 3/8-24 tpi, =
NOT Whitworth.
>>=20
>>> Paul Osborne
>>> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
>>> University of Rochester=20
>>> 201 Hopeman Building RC
>>> Rochester NY 14627
>>    585-275-5226=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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>>=20
>>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:55 PM, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net =
>>>=20
>>> I am pretty sure there would be no factory metric parts on the MGA. =
But there is information about this online. Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s =
site probably has what you need.=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Max Heim
>>> '66 MGB
>>>=20
>>>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com =
>>>>=20
>>>> I have a 56 mga, and the wrench that fits the bleed screws for the =
brake cylinders (drums all around) are whitworth.  And the thread =
doesn=E2=80=99t match either metric or SAE on my thread checker so I am =
assuming that is also metric.
>>>> =20
>>>> Not knowing the true history or this car I am assuming that it came =
that way.  But I also realize that maybe someone grabbed the brake =
cylinders off a TD or even a TC and used those.
>>>> =20
>>>> Is there any corroborating evidence out there one way or the other?
>>>> =20
>>>> It seems original in many ways; has a lot of the weird stuff the =
early cars came with if that is any help.
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class=3D"">Sadly, that is true. I recently bought cylinders for a =
vintage Plymouth and found the bleeder nuts were metric 7mm (a size not =
included in most metric wrench sets, and of course not at all in my =
Plymouth=E2=80=99s tool kit =E2=80=94 plus ridiculously small for a =
bleeder).<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:06 PM, John DiFede &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:difejo1@gmail.com"; class=3D"">difejo1@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">If the wheel cylinder was =
replaced there=E2=80=99s no telling what you might have. &nbsp;On my mgb =
at one point the rear cylinders each had a different size bleed screw. =
&nbsp;I needed a different wrench for each one. &nbsp;</span><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D"">Your threads could be metric if the cylinder was =
replaced and the replacement was manufactured in the Far East.&nbsp;<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jan 29, 2021, at 2:22 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a> =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<span =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><blockquote =
id=3D"replyBlockquote" webmail=3D"1" style=3D"border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; margin-left: 8px; =
padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; font-family: verdana;" class=3D""><div=
 id=3D"wmQuoteWrapper" class=3D"">I have pretty thoroughly searched =
Barney's site.&nbsp; someone please correct me, but i have found no =
discussion on threads on bleed screws on MGAs.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">the following is from =
Cecelia at Scarborough Faire.&nbsp; Leads me to believe that mine have =
been mucked with to some extent (no surprise there)</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><i class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></i></div><div id=3D"wmQuoteWrapper" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><i class=3D""><span class=3D"">On the MGA wheel cylinders =
ONLY the early REAR wheel cyls had the 20 tpi BSF Whitworth bleeder =
screws which we also offer in our catalog on the same page (M71E), but =
be aware that the bleeder screws go into that solid brass banjo M96E =
Adaptor NOT into the wheel cylinder itself. What goes into the wheel =
cylinder is our part M97 Banjo bolt which is also 3/8-20tpi BSF =
Whitworth.</span><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><span class=3D"">On the =
front wheel cylinders the M71 Bleeder screws are 3/8-24 tpi, NOT =
Whitworth.</span></i></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
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break-word;"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt;">Paul&nbsp;Osborne<br =
class=3D"">Department of Electrical and Computer Eng<br =
class=3D"">University of Rochester&nbsp;<br class=3D"">201 Hopeman =
Building RC<br class=3D"">Rochester NY 14627<br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div></span></span></div></div></div></block=
quote><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size:=
 16px;">&nbsp; &nbsp;585-275-5226</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space: pre;"> </span></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan =
29, 2021, at 12:55 PM, Max Heim &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
line-break: after-white-space;">I am pretty sure there would be no =
factory metric parts on the MGA. But there is information about this =
online. Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s site probably has what you need.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;">--</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; min-height: 16px;">Max =
Heim</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;">'66 =
MGB</div></div></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, =
dave &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; =
class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have a 56 mga, and the wrench =
that fits the bleed screws for the brake cylinders (drums all around) =
are whitworth.&nbsp; And the thread doesn=E2=80=99t match either metric =
or SAE on my thread checker so I am assuming that is also metric.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Not knowing the true =
history or this car I am assuming that it came that way.&nbsp; But I =
also realize that maybe someone grabbed the brake cylinders off a TD or =
even a TC and used those.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">Is there any corroborating evidence out there one way or =
the other?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It seems original in =
many ways; has a lot of the weird stuff the early cars came with if that =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Donate:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; style=3D"font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Suggested annual donation &nbsp;$12.75</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Archive:<span =
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href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs"; style=3D"font-family: =
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style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; style=3D"font-family: Verdana; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
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