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To: "'Max Heim'" <mvheim@sonic.net>, "'mglist'" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mold
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There=E2=80=99s a point. So maybe not using a bag to put the rice in, but s=
omething like a metal mesh container.

 

Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Max Heim
Verzonden: donderdag 29 april 2021 20:53
Aan: mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Mold

 

Also feeds mice very well=E2=80=A6

 

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'66 MGB






 

Rice absorbs moist very well!

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

Namens Barrie Robinson
Verzonden: donderdag 29 april 2021 17:30
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Mold

 

Absolutely - together with 2lbs of ham, a large cheese, peeled grapes and a=
 partridge in a pear tree.    To say nothing of a set of books, preferably =
Dickens!   (well hell they must have something to read).   But seriously if=
 rice is your direction then it should be nasi biryani.

I must stop wearing this clown's hat!

Cheers
Barrie




 wrote:

Have a bag full of rice placed in the car before have it hibernating. 
 
Funny Frank asked this. Frank and I have met in 2000, when I went to Boston=
=2E
http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm 
 
Cheers, Hans 
71 BGT
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Namens David F. Darby
Verzonden: woensdag 28 april 2021 17:21
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Mold
 
Ventilation and maybe a dehumidifier.
 
David
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank 
Krajewski
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:12 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Mold
 
I keep my 1980 MGB LE stored and covered in my sop from about late 
September to now. I live in Rhode island and can=E2=80=99t risk driving it =

until the rain has washed away all the salt on the roads. This year I 
took it to Bassett=E2=80=99s Jaguar, just down the road from me as I know B=
ill 
Bassett and he has helped me out in the past. It needed some minor 
work which he was going to do. Bill called me later tat day and said 
he couldn=E2=80=99t touch the car due to extensive mold everywhere.  Since =

then I have embarked on an extensive mold removal effort using white 
vinegar and several commercially available products. Is there 
something more I should be doing and is there some way to prevent this 
from happening in the future other than leaving the car uncovered? I 
am even having it professionally detailed next week. The detailer promised =
to thoroughly clean and demold  the car.
Frank Krajewski
1980 MGBLE
1991 Miata LE
 
 
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There=E2=80=99s a point. So maybe =
not using a bag to put the rice in, but something like a metal mesh =
container.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Mgs =
&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>Namens </b>Max =
Heim<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 29 april 2021 20:53<br><b>Aan:</b> =
mglist &lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
Mold<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Also feeds =
mice very well=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Max =
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>'66 =
MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Apr 29, 2021, at 11:46 AM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Rice absorbs moist very =
well!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>Namens<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Barrie =
Robinson<br><b>Verzonden:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>donderdag 29 april 2021 =
17:30<br><b>Aan:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp=
:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Mgs] =
Mold<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Absolutely - =
together with 2lbs of ham, a large cheese, peeled grapes and a partridge =
in a pear tree.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To say nothing of a set of books, =
preferably Dickens!&nbsp;&nbsp; (well hell they must have something to =
read).&nbsp;&nbsp; But seriously if rice is your direction then it =
should be nasi biryani.<br><br>I must stop wearing this clown's =
hat!<br><br>Cheers<br>Barrie<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/29/2021 7:36 AM,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Have =
a bag full of rice placed in the car before have it hibernating. =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Funny Frank asked =
this. Frank and I have met in 2000, when I went to =
Boston.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a =
href=3D"http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm";>http://www.=
ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm</a> =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cheers, Hans =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>71 =
BGT<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>-----Oorspronkelijk =
bericht-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Van: Mgs <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net=
&gt;</a> Namens David F. Darby<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Verzonden: woensdag =
28 april 2021 17:21<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Aan: 'Frank Krajewski' <a =
href=3D"mailto:frankk12@verizon.net";>&lt;frankk12@verizon.net&gt;</a>; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net";>Mgs@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre=
><pre>Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] =
Mold<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Ventilation and =
maybe a =
dehumidifier.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>David<o:p>=
</o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>-----Original =
Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: Mgs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] On Behalf Of Frank =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Krajewski<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Wednesday, =
April 28, 2021 10:12 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net";>Mgs@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre=
><pre>Subject: [Mgs] =
Mold<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I keep my 1980 MGB =
LE stored and covered in my sop from about late =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>September to now. I live in Rhode island and =
can=E2=80=99t risk driving it <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>until the rain has =
washed away all the salt on the roads. This year I =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>took it to Bassett=E2=80=99s Jaguar, just down the =
road from me as I know Bill <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Bassett and he has =
helped me out in the past. It needed some minor =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>work which he was going to do. Bill called me =
later tat day and said <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>he couldn=E2=80=99t touch =
the car due to extensive mold everywhere.&nbsp; Since =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>then I have embarked on an extensive mold removal =
effort using white <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>vinegar and several =
commercially available products. Is there =
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>something more I should be doing and is there some =
way to prevent this <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>from happening in the future =
other than leaving the car uncovered? I <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>am even =
having it professionally detailed next week. The detailer promised to =
thoroughly clean and demold&nbsp; the car.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Frank =
Krajewski<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>1980 MGBLE<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>1991 =
Miata =
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