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To: morgans@autox.team.net
Subject: Fwd: OVER HEATING
From: RCooperman@aol.com
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:35:07 -0500
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Subj:    OVER HEATING
Date:    96-03-16 11:34:29 EST
From:    RCooperman
To:      jblair@nhr.com

In a message dated 96-03-15 22:13:33 EST, you write:

>Subj:  No Subject
>Date:  96-03-15 22:13:33 EST
>From:  jblair@nhr.com (John T. Blair)
>Sender:        owner-morgans@triumph.cs.utah.edu
>Reply-to:      jblair@nhr.com (John T. Blair)
>To:    morgans@autox.team.net
>
>Ha gang,
>
>I just ran across an intersting debate on the Britsh car mailing
>list about engine overheating.  It was a theoretical (sp) argument.
>This got me thinking... a dangerous prospect.  Have any of you
>had overheating problems, and how have you fixed them?
>
>My 4/4 Series V has always overheated, so when I restored it, I had
>the radiator roded out.  I also found a 160 deg. thermostat.  Guess
>what?  She still over heats.
>
>It tends to overheat when at speed.  In fact, as I pull away from a
>traffic light, I can watch the temp guage climb.  When I stop for
>the next light tends to cool down.  However, this can be short lived
>as I have overheated in a parade.  
>
>In discussions with numerous people about that I've received the
>following suggestions:
>
>1. Put an electric fan on it.
>
>2. Add a heater core (from a pick up truck) under the hood and tie
>   it into the heater system.
>
>3. Install a +8 radiator.
>
>4. Make a scoop for under the grill.
>
>
>Items #1 and #2 make sense, especially at idle and parades.  However,
>I hesitate to use them as I show my car with the AACA and I'd either
>loose a lot of points, or I'd have the hassel of undoing the
>modification before every show.
>
>Item #3 is supposedly the "real" ticket.  However, it is expensive
>and the few people I've talked to that have done it say they had a
>lot of trouble fitting the radiator.  The brackets had to be moved
>etc.
>
>Item #4 might work at speed and could be made to look very original.
>Only a "true" Morgan-ite would know it wasn't.  I haven't tried this
>yet.
>
>One last item a friend was trying, that is to make a dam from the
>radiator forward to the grill to help funnel all the air through
>the radiator.  But, my friend said that didn't help his car.
>
>Anyone have any other ideas or comments on what has helped on their
>car?
>John T. Blair  WA4OHZ          email:  jblair@nhr.com
>Va. Beach, Va                  Phone:  495-8229
>
>48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget  65 Morgan 4/4 Series V
>     75 Bricklin SV1   77 Spitfire

I have '67 4/4 with the cross-flow 1600 cc engine.  It also overheated ALL
the time!

I did the following to cure the problem:

    1.  Installed an electric fan in front of the radiator controlled by a
dashboard switch.

    2.  Re-cored the radiator with more efficient heat transfer material and
extended the length of the radiator core a few inches.

    3.  Installed a plate under the radiator  - from grill to just before the
block - to channel the air.

No more troubles.  Did them in the above sequence and got the most "bang'
from #2.

Richard Cooperman
'67 4/4 RHD
'87 560 SL

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