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Re: seals / clutch --

To: Paul Jones <pbjones@csra.net>,
Subject: Re: seals / clutch --
From: Bob Nogueira <nogera@prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 15:21:46 -0500
-- [ From: Bob Nogueira * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --

Paul;  Sorry my post  brought you some bad news. My guess is they are all
basically the say since The one I got requires the scroll be turned to 65mm.
My suggestion is  you check with Moss and verify that they are not available
. Whether you will get someone as honest as I did, who admits that they are
reengineering it is chancey. 

 Several years ago I ordered a water pump  for my BGT  from Moss and got a
rude sales person who would not tell check the specs on the pumps so I could
insure I was ordering the correct one. Ended up with the wrong pump and had 
to do a lot of mods to get it to work, Sent off a letter to Moss complaining
about  the rude salesperson and the extra work he caused me and they sent me
a letter of apology and full refund of the price of the pump .

Damp course is any thing which will not hold water. The factory used a  very
heavy tar paper. i used a nylon webbing .


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> Date: Friday, 21-Mar-97 07:33 PM
> 
> From: Paul Jones               \ Internet:    (pbjones@csra.net)
> To:   Bob Nogueira             \ Internet:    (nogera@prodigy.net)
> 
> Subject: Re: seals / clutch --
> 
> At 05:33 AM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >-- [ From: Bob Nogueira * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
> >
> >
> >-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
> >
> >> To keep you updated, I called :
> >
> >British Frame & Engine
> >4831 N. Ryland Ave.
> >Temple City, CA 91780
> >818-443-0939  Ken Gilanders-proprietor 
> >
> >regarding the rear main seal conversion. Real nice guy who supplied alot
of
> >information.
> >He says that Rover used a scroll type seal like the TR engine. They later
> >designed a adapter to a conventional seal. A friend of his in England
used
> >the Rover seal and designed a adapter plate for the TR engine.  Moss
> >basically copied his design but he soon learned that the seal shrank
after
> >installed creating a oil leak. He modified the design to compensate for
the
> >shrinkage and has not had a problem in the past eight years. Seems Moss
> >never learned of the problem and has taken its seal off the market to
find
> >the fix.  
> >Anyway I  ordered a seal and have the crank at the machine shop being
> >modified. THe seal was $105.00 and the crank mod will cost about $50.00.
> >I figure its a gamble but since I've got that same amount in replacing
the
> >clutch and pressure plate I'll take the chance. The fact that I have
three
> >spare cranks also makes it easy.
> > 
> >
> >Bob Nogueira
> >74 MGBGT
> >64 Morgan +4
> >__________________________________________________
> >Hi, Bob
> 
> Read with some dismay your message on Moss rear oil seal conversion kits. 
I
> bought one from Moss in November, had the crank scrolled area ground to 65
.5mm
> and began assembling the engine about a month ago.  It's still on the
stand,
> and I'm almost ready to bolt on the head and then assemble the drivetrain
and
> install...
> 
> My Moss kit was "another quality part engineered by Dennis Welch."  Is
Welch
> the originator of this conversion?  Robert Couch has offered this
conversion
> since 1991 at least.  Anyone have experience with his seal, which I
suspect
> is the same as Moss?
> If the leak is miniscule by British car standards, I'm tempted to button
up
> the engine and get on with my restoration (54 Plus 4 Four Seater
> transitional grill).  Any feedback on these conversions would sure help.
> 
> Incidentally, someone please define the "damp course" that is laid between
the
> body and the frame rails.  I don't have construction experience, so I'm
not
> really sure what this moisture barrier actually is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul Jones
> 54 Plus 4
> 54 MG TF
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Bob Nogueira
74 MGBGT
64 Morgan +4
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