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Re: American collectors - threat... or menace?

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Subject: Re: American collectors - threat... or menace?
From: "Lenn Nelsen" <lnelsen@university-health-sys.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 09:06:40 -0500
Can't sit here quiet no longer....

I hang around that "American Iron" group and
find them to be fine folk.  In fact, I show Moggie
at "hot rod" shows 'cause, to me, it is the
quintessential English hot rod--love that deep
throated V-8 noise coming out the rear.  

I also go cruising with several local car groups.
Because we never really know where we're going in the
back hills of the Texas Hill Country we have a 
system:
Instead of following the car in front of you, you
make sure that the car behind you is always in
your rear view mirror.  This keeps the leader's
pace to that of the last car.  Really, really works
except for two cruises (both of those were with
British car groups and one, gulp, was a Morgan
group--both times a car in front got out of sight
and the car behind sped up (rather than trusting
the person in front to slow down and wait) leaving
the cars behind them in the lurch, lost and separated
from the main group.  Ya gotta trust your fellow team member)

On Harley's. I still ride mine.  I'm a member of the
IBA (Iron Butt Association)--we like the long distance
thing.   (Just to become a member ya gotta do
1,000 miles in less than 24 hours or 1500 miles
in 36 hours).  We think nothing of traveling out
of state (I'm in San Antonio, Texas) to have lunch
on a weekend (we don't stay anywhere overnight--it's
a go and return thang).  I'm the lone Harley among 
mostly BMW and Honda Touring bikes.  Yeah, I wasn't
accepted at first; but perseverance and interest in THEIR
machines turned'em around.  OUR interest is two
wheels and long distance riding; not what you're
riding.  I find that to be the same with the "American
Iron" group- (Ya not gonna talk to me when I'm in
my SS396 El Camino?).  Gee, I've also seen the reaction
you're talking from British car groups when they see the
"American Iron"

Where is your interest level?  Just because you met
one rectal orifice in a particular vehicle don't mean
they's all that way.

Okay, off my soapbox.

Y'all are most welcome to visit in San Antonio.

Lenn Nelsen
San Antonio, Texas
(Protector of the guilty and punisher of the innocent
.......or is that the other way around?)

Have a phun day an a gud time





Stuart -

I used to be into old American cars ('53 Dodge; '69 GTO Judge; '66 Mustang;
'47 Dodge pickup).  I won't stereotype any particular group, and you MAY
chalk this observation up to MY changing over the years, but it seems to me
that there's lots more grouchy obnoxious old farts into old American iron
than into old British iron (or wood).  I very seldom meet that sort of
person at a British car meet; but dern if I don't seem to see a lot of
self-important, know-it-all old toots at American car cruise nights and
things like that.  Same goes for bikes; I've had three Harley Davidsons, and
I got out of them and into Britbikes because of the posers and profilers I
ended up riding with.

List, go ahead and flame me if I'm just blind prejudiced; it could be that I
am and that I need gentle guidance.  If you've noticed the same thing,
though, be honest about it; take this opportunity to vent!!

Lannis

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart J. Ross <stuross@nac.net>


>Here's a story about inconsiderate people NOT offering help. Early in May,
I
>was in Chestertown, MD driving my 53 Bentley R-Type when it started to make
>some nasty knocking sounds. I decided to stop and have it flatbeded back to
>NJ. Since it was Sunday, I had to wait over night. So I found a room and
>then took a cab into the historic district. A large group of old Fords came
>through town, mostly Model T's. They stopped for a meal at a dockside
>restaurant. I was going there anyhow, so I stopped at a table full of Ford
>folks and explained to them about the Bentley and wondered if any of them
>were "mechanical" and would like to take a look/listen. I told them that
all
>I wanted to know was if they had any idea what was wrong with the car, I
>didn't want to do a roadside repair. They were very "snotty" about it and
>downright unfriendly. One woman in the group said that they didn't want the
>responsibility of dealing with the car. I said all I wanted was someone's
>opinion of what might be wrong, and I certainly wasn't asking anybody to do
>any work on the car for me...just look & listen to the noise to try to
>figure out what was wrong. Well, I know that Morgan people would have said
>something like..."I don't know myself, but try Herb over at the next table.
>He'll be able to look at it, etc" We certainly would have been more
friendly
>than these Bozos were to me. Next morning, I had it shipped back to NJ with
>the help of a much more cooperative and friendly group of guys at the local
>AAA auto parts store.
>Still waiting for the mechanic's verdict. but also still pissed off at the
>Ford Club in Maryland! Would Chevy guys have been more friendly?
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lannis" <ottoflick@netzero.net>
>To: <morgans@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Swell-tering event in Texas
>
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David P. Crandall <davidc@netwrk.org>
>>
>>
>> >Hi all - a report from one happy northerner who experienced Texas MogMog
>> >hospitality last weekend.
>> >
>> >The event was the annual Texas All Brits show in Houston.  I'd met this
>> >great gal and Morganeer on the internet and we'd arranged a rendezvous
>> >Friday night after I finished a workshop for a bunch of school
principals
>> >in McKinney Texas.  Now, you know what they say about people you meet on
>> >the internet and the danger of just going somewhere not knowing what
>you're
>> >in for!  Of course, how could a fellow Morgan nut not be OK, I figured.
>>
>>
>> David - Glad it worked out and you had a good time!!
>>
>> With you, I think people are way too wimpy and paranoid about actually
>> meeting some of the neat people you get to know on these lists.  Sure,
>20/60
>> or 48 Minutes or one of those shows can always come up with a horror
>story,
>> but that's all part of the "perceived threat" problem that makes people,
>for
>> example, cringe in horror at the thought of a nuclear power plant in
their
>> state while they blithely whoosh down the road at 75 mph 20 feet behind
>the
>> car in front of them with a cell phone in their ear.
>>
>> I've been helped many times over the years by people who didn't know me
>and
>> were taking a "risk" in doing it; I intend to pass it on as long as I
>live!
>>
>>
>> Lannis "Stop by the House Sometime" Selz
>>
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