Thanks for the site Jim,
But in regard to your suggestion...that is exactly my problem...ie. there is
NO internal channel (tube) to clear (or if there is, I sure would like to
know how it runs). As far as I can tell, there is not any feed off the rear
cam bearing as several of the posts mention. I did see that one of the
posts, says: "I didn't think they still used an oil feed line off rear
bearing after '57 year.", but they don't say what would have taken its
place. Maybe an internal channel? If so, maybe mine is blocked - by the
modified head bolt that I don't have?
I do know, that when I first rebuilt the engine and started it, there was no
oil getting to the rockers, so I asked an old fart what might be the
problem, and all he said, was to run the external line, which I did and got
good oil, so never worried about it, but I did THINK about it alot and told
myself that the first time I had cause to pull the lifter cover, I would put
the line that should have been there back on...well, that is until I DID
have the cover off, and can not see any way to PUT the line on, as I can not
see any place to attach it near the rear of the lifter gallery where I
expected to see some type of hole to hook a tube/line into...it just isn't
there.
This seems to fit more in line with the guy who said that after '57 they
didn't use the line, but that only makes me wonder how the oil would have
gotten to the rockers then, in the first place...
Plus, I also wonder about the comments regarding the one head bolt with the
recessed area by the head...all mine look the same, except for length. 10
of one length, 8 of the other, but none that has a configuation different
than the rest, so, MAYBE, I was cutting off my internal oil supply by using
the wrong type of bolt???
But, thanks for the site...it certainly offered some info I was not aware
of, but it also made me realize I have more detective work to do :-)
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Fredricks
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 oiling ?
Rob,
Check the tread at
http://www.stovebolt.com/bboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=0
02104&p=
There is a bunch of detail about how to clear the internal channel so
the external line isn't needed.
Jim
At 10:56 AM 2/10/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I can help you with this. Take a look at the picture here
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/files/Image07a.jpg Where
>the red arrow is, you should have a bolt or a pipe fitting plug, or
>something. All you need to do, is remove that bolt or whatever is there,
>get a fitting that will accept brake line (3/16" I think). Next, replace
>the existing fitting with a T-fitting at the rear of the block on drivers
>side...this is the fitting that feeds your oil pressure gauge. What you
>need to configure at that point, is something that will ultimately end
>with a fitting that will accept the other end of the brake line, and
still
>allow the oil gauge to connect also...any FLAPs can help you put the
>pieces together if you know the size of the oil gauge fitting and the
size
>of the piece that will fit into the block. Then, the final thing is to
>get a suitable length of brakeline, and bend it to shape. Some run it
>around the front of the block, I ran mine around the back. I went
>basically up the drivers side of the block, to just at the top of the
head
>surface where I made the bend to go around to the other side of the
block,
>and to continue around the side to the fitting on the passengers side
(red
>arrow in the picture). I put a length of vacuum hose on the brake line
>where it goes around the back of the head to provide some rubber
>protection from chaffing. Of course, you will need to flare the brake
>line ends, but that is another topic that I can assist with if you
haven't
>done it yet. It is really easy to do with the right tool, and those are
>not that expensive, but really easy to work with. I can try to take some
>more pictures if you want.
>
>What I was initially trying to find out, but maybe wasn't clear, was what
>I could do to eliminate my external line, and try to do it the right
>way...but I guess several thought I was trying to go in the other
>direction, ie. to an external line..
>
>Let me know if I can provide any more info. It really wasn't
difficult...
>
>Rob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tcape@weblnk.net
> To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 oiling ?
>
>
> Jim, I'd sure like to know more about the oil bypass kit when you get
> it. I
> took my valve cover off a couple of weeks ago to adjust the valves,
and
> noticed half the rockers weren't getting any oil because the small
hole up
> from the engine was plugged up. No damage, but sure could have been
had I
> not found it in time. The bypass kit would be a good way to avoid
> potential
> oiling problems.
>
> Thanks too to Nate for the info on this. In fact, thanks to Nate on
some
> great info on LOTS of things.
> Tom Caperton
> '47-2 3100 in Whiteville, NC
> tcape@weblnk.net
> See truck pics at... www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292181265
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fredricks" <jimfred@mindspring.com>
> To: <old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 oiling ?
>
>
> >
> > I have the bypass installed on my 235. I researched it and Nate is
> > correct, it is to ensure oil gets to the rockers cause the small
hole up
> > from the engine is often blocked. There is some speculation, that
the
> > bypass was put in as a regular course by early rebuilders. Anyway,
I
> just
> > won a bypass kit on eBay. (I was curious about it.) When it shows
up, I
> > can provide more info. The eBay link was:
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600843056
&
> r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1012244881&indexURL=0&rd=1
> >
> > Also, I'm wondering if it would be OK to tap the line and install
the oil
> > filter? Anyone have any ideas about that?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > At 08:57 AM 2/9/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Well, mine is not plugged up...there just isn't a line there to GET
> > >plugged up. If anyone has a picture (or could grab a digital one)
that
> > >shows the setup, and can email it to me, that would be wonderful.
> > >Rob
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: vwnate1
> > > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:26 AM
> > > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 oiling ?
> > >
> > >
> > > My computer is screwed up so I cannot see your picture but there
is
> > > supposed to be an oil line passing through the block , it
ofttimes
> > > gets plugged up with sludge and therefore bypassed in the manner
you
> > > describe . in fact , I used to sell the external oil line kits
20
> > > years ago . the deal is : there are some fittings where the tube
goes
> > > through the block that are very hard to find , maybe they got
lost
> > > sometime when the block was being hot tanked or somthing . this
tiny
> > > oil line feeds oil to the rockers and is vital to the longevity
of
> > > your engine . you should be able to find a set of the line &
fittings
> > > on some old junker engine . as long as plenty of oil is
squirting out
> > > between the rockers when the engine is off idle , you're in good
> > > shape .
> > >
> > > if you go to The Stovebolt Page .com you'll find much detailed
info
> > > on this in the archives .
> > > -Nate
> > > Rob wrote:
> > > > I seem to recall from a previous thread, that there is
supposed to
> > > be an
> > > > oiling line behind the tappet cover. I finally had a reason
to
> > > remove my
> > > > cover, and took a picture (see link below). What I don't
recall,
> > > is whether
> > > > or not this line was present in ALL 235 engines regardless of
> > > whether or not
> > > > they were solid or hydraulic, or maybe only present in those
with
> > > solid
> > > > lifters, but not hydraulics (and vice versa), or maybe only in
> > > certain
> > > > years. In the picture, the green arrow points to a plug in
what I
> > > suspect
> > > > is an oil gallery going to the rocker arms, but in my case, is
> > > plugged off
> > > > and not being used. I would think that somewhere in the
yellow
> > > highlighted
> > > > area, should be another plug, but in my case, there is
nothing, ie.
> > > not
> > > > holes that I can see. I have had to route an external oil
line
> > > from the
> > > > rear of the block on the opposite side, around the back of the
> > > block, and
> > > > plumb it into the rocker arm oiling setup at the green arrow.
> > > While this
> > > > end-around approach has worked and gets good oil to the
rockers, as
> > > long as
> > > > I have the engine down and being worked on, I thought that
maybe I
> > > could fix
> > > > the lack of the oil line behind the cover. If anyone knows
what
> > > should be
> > > > there, and whether or not I could maybe tap a line in by
drilling
> > > into the
> > > > yellow area and tapping the hole for a fitting, or knows of
anyway
> > > to get
> > > > rid of the external oil line, I would appreciate discussing
this
> > > with you.
> > > >
> > > >
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/files/Image07a.jpg
> > >
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