I think a replacement, rebuilt starter will come with shims if the
rebuilders shaved any metal off the mating surface. I just bought, or
got my free lifetime replacement, starter from Advance Auto Parts. It
had a bright colored warning in it to use the shims if provided. I had
no shims and the starter works well. This is on a new style engine (1985
replacement 350).
Claude
1985 350 TPI auto
1959 4bbl 283 4-speed
Jim Wilkerson wrote:
>Do all GM starters need to be shimmed? I have a 2000 GM Crate truck engine
>(Vortec 5.7L). There were no shims or any mention of shims in the starter box
>or instructions.
>
>Thanks, Jim W.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:steve@oldsub.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:53 AM
>To: Carl & Becky Ham; 64bowtie@quik.com; Mask1966@aol.com;
>60schevy@topica.com; oletrucks@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
>
>
>Sometime in the last year there was a magazine article on how to adjust GM
>starters. It described the noise you might here, and the said what side of
>the starter to shim. I don't recall the title or month, but you might dig
>through your local library looking at pickup and rod type magazines and I'm
>sure you'll fine it.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carl & Becky Ham" <the_hams@hotmail.com>
>To: <64bowtie@quik.com>; <Mask1966@aol.com>; <60schevy@topica.com>;
><oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
>
>
>Mike:
>With all due respect to Devin's reply, I would not use trial and error to
>install your starter. You may damage the starter bendix gear and/or the teeth
>on the flywheel/flexplate.
>
>Most replacement starters for GM engines come with a shim package. Included
>in the shim package is a small diameter rod to measure the distance between
>the starter bendix shaft and the flywheel/flexplate. If you don't have one,
>go to a local FLAPS, they usually have extras on hand. Some shim kits come
>with short and long shims for positioning the starter. Short shims to add
>clearance on one side only, long shims to add clearance for the whole starter
>(both sides).
>
>With the starter bolted in place (no shims), slide the rod between the bendix
>shaft (not the bendix gear with the teeth) and the flexplate teeth. Use your
>judgement, if the pin appears too sloppy, loosen the starter and slide shims
>under the outside (closest to the framerail) bolt. This will 'tilt' the
>starter closer to the flexplate. Retighten and recheck until you're satisfied
>with the clearance.
>
>Conversely, if you can't get the rod between the bendix shaft and flexplate,
>loosen the bolt closest to the engine block and add shims to this side (it
>will 'tilt' the starter away from the flexplate). Or you may need to add a
>long shim to position the starter evenly. Repeat as above until you're happy
>with the clearance.
>
>Doing this will ensure the bendix gear engages properly and doesn't damage the
>opposing teeth on the flexplate.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Carl Ham
>'56 Chevy TF Stepside
>Pontiac, IL
>
>
>
>>From: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
>>Reply-To: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
>>To: <Mask1966@aol.com>, <60schevy@topica.com>,
>><oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
>>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:50:17 -0800
>>
>>Mike- Not all Chevys require shims with their starters. I put the
>>starter in, see if it grinds, and then start shimming from there, trial
>>and error. Start with thin ones and only go as thick as necessary.
>>
>>Devin
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <Mask1966@aol.com>
>>To: <60schevy@topica.com>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:36 PM
>>Subject: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hey V8 guys, how do I know how many shims to install with my 305
>>>
>>>
>>starter?
>>I
>>
>>
>>>know there is some measurement to be made, but where and how much?
>>>
>>>
>>Help,
>>the
>>
>>
>>>motor goes in tomorrow.
>>>
>>>Mike Klepp
>>>'48 3100 5 window
>>>'65 C-10 stepside
>>>Wichita Falls, TX
>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
>>>1959
>>>
>>>
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>>
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