We never used one shim on the new engines from 88-up at the plant, so why
now?? I have seldom had a grind or whine when changing starters in lots of
trucks. Had one that did, just used one shim in package. Some starters have
a little paper describing how to measure and fit the shims and what each
does. How the heck can you DO that when you're laying on your back under a
dirty truck?? Can't get your hands, light and starter drive all in one place
at same time, and the nose of starter is in the way too. Upside down on a
stand, MAYBE! I'ld bolt it in and try it. Doubt you will have any trouble
and need the shims!
G. L. Grumpy's
Old Iron Ranch
Huntington, IN 46750
AD trucks and MM tractors
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude" <cramey@earthlink.net>
To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
> I think a replacement, rebuilt starter will come with shims if the
> rebuilders shaved any metal off the mating surface. I just bought, or
> got my free lifetime replacement, starter from Advance Auto Parts. It
> had a bright colored warning in it to use the shims if provided. I had
> no shims and the starter works well. This is on a new style engine (1985
> replacement 350).
>
> Claude
> 1985 350 TPI auto
> 1959 4bbl 283 4-speed
>
> Jim Wilkerson wrote:
>
> >Do all GM starters need to be shimmed? I have a 2000 GM Crate truck
engine (Vortec 5.7L). There were no shims or any mention of shims in the
starter box or instructions.
> >
> >Thanks, Jim W.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:steve@oldsub.com]
> >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:53 AM
> >To: Carl & Becky Ham; 64bowtie@quik.com; Mask1966@aol.com;
60schevy@topica.com; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
> >
> >
> >Sometime in the last year there was a magazine article on how to adjust
GM starters. It described the noise you might here, and the said what side
of the starter to shim. I don't recall the title or month, but you might
dig through your local library looking at pickup and rod type magazines and
I'm sure you'll fine it.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Carl & Becky Ham" <the_hams@hotmail.com>
> >To: <64bowtie@quik.com>; <Mask1966@aol.com>; <60schevy@topica.com>;
<oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:51 AM
> >Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
> >
> >
> >Mike:
> >With all due respect to Devin's reply, I would not use trial and error to
install your starter. You may damage the starter bendix gear and/or the
teeth on the flywheel/flexplate.
> >
> >Most replacement starters for GM engines come with a shim package.
Included in the shim package is a small diameter rod to measure the distance
between the starter bendix shaft and the flywheel/flexplate. If you don't
have one, go to a local FLAPS, they usually have extras on hand. Some shim
kits come with short and long shims for positioning the starter. Short
shims to add clearance on one side only, long shims to add clearance for the
whole starter (both sides).
> >
> >With the starter bolted in place (no shims), slide the rod between the
bendix shaft (not the bendix gear with the teeth) and the flexplate teeth.
Use your judgement, if the pin appears too sloppy, loosen the starter and
slide shims under the outside (closest to the framerail) bolt. This will
'tilt' the starter closer to the flexplate. Retighten and recheck until
you're satisfied with the clearance.
> >
> >Conversely, if you can't get the rod between the bendix shaft and
flexplate, loosen the bolt closest to the engine block and add shims to this
side (it will 'tilt' the starter away from the flexplate). Or you may need
to add a long shim to position the starter evenly. Repeat as above until
you're happy with the clearance.
> >
> >Doing this will ensure the bendix gear engages properly and doesn't
damage the opposing teeth on the flexplate.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >Carl Ham
> >'56 Chevy TF Stepside
> >Pontiac, IL
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
> >>Reply-To: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
> >>To: <Mask1966@aol.com>, <60schevy@topica.com>,
> >><oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
> >>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:50:17 -0800
> >>
> >>Mike- Not all Chevys require shims with their starters. I put the
> >>starter in, see if it grinds, and then start shimming from there, trial
> >>and error. Start with thin ones and only go as thick as necessary.
> >>
> >>Devin
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <Mask1966@aol.com>
> >>To: <60schevy@topica.com>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:36 PM
> >>Subject: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hey V8 guys, how do I know how many shims to install with my 305
> >>>
> >>>
> >>starter?
> >>I
> >>
> >>
> >>>know there is some measurement to be made, but where and how much?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Help,
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>motor goes in tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>>Mike Klepp
> >>>'48 3100 5 window
> >>>'65 C-10 stepside
> >>>Wichita Falls, TX
> >>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> >>>1959
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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