| Thanks to all for the responses.  In the orignal
message I was concerned about the keepers (I have a
spring compressor).  Sometimes on "other" cars a
special tool is required to remove the keepers. 
Appreciate all the tips on finding the keepers.  Those
of you (2 or so) who know what I do for a living know
I got magnets to catch the keepers.  Heh, heh, heh.
I tried Peter's idea of duct taping the entire garage
floor.  Now my dog is stuck. 
Regards,
Ron
--- richard.arnold@juno.com wrote:
> Ron, et al.:
> 
> The better way to do it is use a spring compressor. 
> Saves time and
> pounded fingers.
> 
> However, I have popped many a valve loose with a
> socket and a hammer
> (some still on the car).  A cheap easy way to avoid
> losing things (or
> smacking your fingers) -- in the absence of a spring
> compressor -- is to
> use a socket that is the same outside diameter as
> the spring collar. 
> Place the socket on the spring.  Measure from the
> head surface to a point
> about half way up the socket.  Get a piece of pipe
> this length that has
> an inside diameter small enough to fit fairly snugly
> around the socket
> and the spring (I use a small piece of exhaust
> pipe).  Slide the pipe
> over the spring, and put the socket inside the pipe
> (the lip of the
> socket will rest on the spring and collar).  Smack
> the socket with the
> hammer, and the piece of pipe will serve to keep the
> socket from flying
> off into space with the keepers.....
> 
> Luck, 
> 
> Rich
> 
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