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Re: Ladies on The List

To: conan@ralvm8.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Ladies on The List
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:21:37 -0400
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200007142313.TAA172006@northrelay03.pok.ibm.com>
 I am still here. Lurking mostly since most of my time is spent with my kids
right now (son is 6, daughter just turned 1).

 My sprite still hasn't made it to the mechanic yet. Waiting for a house to
sell to get the money to fix it. I'm sure when it gets there though, I'll have
TONS of things to ask.

 Went to the Pittsburgh vintage grand prix today, only 2 frogeyes and no other
Austin healey sprites! Lots of great british cars, but I was disappointed with
the lack of sprites.

I'm here and will be for awhile. I'll delurk to complain about something or ask
a stupid question every now and again though ;}

until then,

Amy
67 Sprite MkIV

conan@ralvm8.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

>   One short post; then I won't mention it again for the rest of the year...
>      ;-)
>   I still talk to Nory now and again and after I mentioned a couple ladies
> she knew who have dropped off the list she asked if there were -any- ladies
> left on the list at all...
>
>   Have you noticed how quiet most of the female listers have been for the
> last couple of months??
>
>   Obviously the vast majority of folks on this list (and likely most car
> lists) are "guys".  Since we can't actually 'see' who is in the room we
> seem to forget ourselves and behave as if there are -only- men here and we
> get a little overly boisterous and careless with our language and attitudes.
>   Most, or even all, of us are probably guilty to one extent or another.
>   If we have driven some of these ladies away, or even unintentionally
> made them uncomfortable to the point that they've gone back to just lurking,
> then I think we have done them -and ourselves- a grave disservice.
>   The two ladies I've talked to who have left this list said this was not
> -their- reason for leaving; but, how 'bout all the other nice ladies we
> don't hear from any more?  If they were all still here and participating
> we would have a sizable contingent of very nice women actively working on
> -Spridgets- and -enjoying- them -with- us.  Easily four times the number who
> are currently posting to the list even semi-regularly!
>
>   How many of us post barely disguised cuss-words?  There are milder words
> to express the same basic sentiment that don't need to be spelled #$$*!.
> Using them makes you sound more mature and in control of yourself.  And both
> safer and more pleasant to be around.
>   How many have posted a comment about "the wife"?  You don't want to claim
> her as "MY wife"???  You chose to marry her!
>   How many times have we seen (heard?) someone jump down another lister's
> throat over something they said derogatory?  Sometimes they even found out
> later that they had misread the comment in the first place.  How do you
> feel about walking into an unfamiliar situation on your own knowing that
> you're in a situation where you're not expected to really understand what's
> going on (even by the friendlier denizens) and then see some of the regulars
> yelling at other regulars?  (Actually, I can remember an instance when one
> of the ladies even asked me about the probable intent of a response she got
> from one of the other ladies on the list! :-) )
>
>   I -promise- I don't mean this in a "politically correct" kind of way (I
> have little respect for the P.C. Police), and I -REALLY- do NOT want this
> to turn into another long thread (sorry about that, Jay!).  There's no need
> for any replies to be posted to the list; ;-) but, may I please suggest that
> we all consider the ladies' more in future?  If you/we really feel the need
> to get loud with someone, maybe it could be done off-list and then, if
> appropriate, just whatever final agreement is reached be calmly posted.
>
>   I would really like to see more ladies/women/girls/females -happily- and
> -comfortably- participating on the Spridgets list!
>   Thank you for your patience!
>    Ed in NC
>   (Well, maybe not so "short" as I had thought... ;-)


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