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Re: The Gun debate

Subject: Re: The Gun debate
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:04:13 -0500
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
References: <16.28b503b8.2b103c60@cs.com> [8400000a].
Another viewpoint, not from someone anonymous, and with cites.

http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html

http://www.guncontrol.org.au/nra_fud.html

http://www.oesr.qld.gov.au/data/data_fs.htm?bulletins/crime/09_trends/bull_crime09.htm~main

http://www.bradycampaign.org/images/facts/ausletter.gif

http://www.ntu.edu.au/faculties/lba/schools/Law/apl/blog/stories/liberties/12.htm

NewNGsInfo@cs.com wrote:

>  Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia asked that this be put on all lists.
>
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>
>  Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real  figures from Down
> Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in  Australia were forced
> by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our
> own government, a program costing Australian  taxpayers more than $500
> million dollars.
>
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>
>  The first year results are now in:
>
>  Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent; Australia-wide, assaults are
> up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed   robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
> percent)  In the state of Victoria alone homicides with firearms are  now up
> 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them  in, the
> criminals did not and the  criminals still possess their guns!)
>
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>
> While figures over the past 25 years showed a steady  decrease in armed
> robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward  in the past 12
> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their  prey is unarmed.
> There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and  assaults of the
> elderly.
>
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>
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public  safety has
> decreased after such a monumental effort and expense was expended  in
> successfully ridding  Australian society of guns.
>
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>
> You won't see this data on the American evening news or  hear your governor
> or members of the state Assembly disseminating this   information.
>
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>
> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of  honest citizens
> save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect   only the
> law-abiding citizens. Take note Americans, before it is too late!
>
> Any debate from down under or otherwise is suspect (no -- read that welcome -
> honest).
>
> John

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