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Re: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder

To: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder
From: Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:22:22 -0600
.. uhh..  so on my car where all i did is switch out the mechanical  
components and no master cylinder ones means that I:

1.      have a soon to fail disc drag on the rotors or

b.      have installed something incorrectly in the Master Cylinder rebuild  
leading to catastrophic failure later??

Lester


On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:

> That's actually incorrect Glen.
>
> A residual valve should not be used with disc brakes. There is a  
> different valve used with the disc brake kits.
>
> see: http://brakecylinder.com/images/LockheedSprings.jpg
>
> The plastic valve on the right are the ones that should be used.  
> This is more of a "retarding valve" rather than a residual valve.  
> The metal cup style on the left needs to have the rubber insert left  
> out. I suppose your hole in the rubber cup could serve the same  
> purpose, but I would be concerned that before long, that hole will  
> become easily obstructed with debris.
>
> In addition, it is also necessary to do something different when  
> using the disc brake conversion on the Morris Minor. Separate  
> external residual valves should be used for front and rear because  
> of the position of the master cylinder. With the master cylinder  
> being lower than the calipers, you need to prevent fluid drain-back  
> by using a 2 lb residual valve in the main line to the front branch.  
> I use a 10lb residual valve to the rear drums.
>
> Gerard
>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:52:59 -0800
>> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder
>> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Message-ID: <FF568384924E4C56AE1B2FFD9DAB8E31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
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>>
>> Its for retaining a bit of residual pressure so the brake shoe return
>> springs don't fully retract the shoes causing you to have to pump  
>> up to get
>> brake action each time.  Its also helps for solo bleeding.   
>> HOWEVER!!! It
>> has less function in a disc brake car and will cause the front  
>> discs to
>> constantly rub a bit too much and wear out the pads pretty fast.   
>> Disc brake
>> conversions require you to punch a small hole in the rubber cup to  
>> mitigate
>> the effect.
>>
>> Glen
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