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Re: [Spridgets] wire wheels

To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wire wheels
From: "Guy R Day" <grday@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:27:39 +0100
What often happens is the tyre fitter doesn't want to remove old stuck on 
weights because they leave a black sticky mark and there is a chance of rim 
damage if they are levered off with a screwdriver or - it could just be 
because they are lazy!   As you say, new weights are stuck on to 
counterbalance the new tyre and old weights combined.

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wire wheels


> Good thought, Jay. I don't think it would matter if the wheel was on 
> tight.
> My reasoning is: Either side you put the weights on will be slightly off 
> of
> the center line of the wheel wouldn't it? I can't recall seening a wheel
> with weights both inside and outside. I don't have solid wheels for
> reference but I think the same would be true with them. What you are
> balancing actually is the tire itself. The wheel should be pretty much
> balanced. Modern tires are marked with a dot which mounts next to the 
> valve
> stem so the tire is designed with the balance application in mind. I've 
> had
> tires that were good enough that no balancing weight was needed at all.
>
> This I found was especially true on motorcycle tires. Recently I had a
> chance to work on a guy's bike and found a whole buncha weights on the 
> wheel
> in different locations around the rim. A local shop had balanced them for
> him on a dynamic balancer. I added up the weights and figured their 
> location
> around the rim. What I found was that they cancelled out completely!! The
> guy running the machine just started slapping weights on it. I removed all
> the weights and ran a little static balance on the wheel. It was perfect!!
> I had the shop put it back on their dynamic machine and it was perfect.
> Moral of the story is that you can't trust the guys running the equipment
> either!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> I know this is true on cast aluminum wheels where adhesive weights are
>> positioned toward the center of the rim but since a steel wire wheel uses
>> weights on the rim, wouldn't the wheel be out of balance with the weight
>> isolated to one side?
>>
>> jay fishbein
>> wallingford, ct
>> I may be out-of-balance but my wheels run true.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also, don't let the bastards put the balance weights on the outside
>> of the wire wheel!!!  They can go on the inside.  Looks better.
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> Jim
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